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New York Giants, Justin Tuck not Looking to Be “Embarrassed” by Seattle Seahawks

December 13th, 2013 at 7:00 AM
By Dan Benton

On paper, Sunday's game between the New York Giants and Seattle Seahawks would appear unfair. The 5-8 Giants have been anything but consistent or solid this year, while the 11-2 Seahawks are, arguably, the NFL's most dominant team — a team that has, and is entirely capable of embarrassing opponents.

It's a potential fate that Big Blue defensive end Justin Tuck isn't interesting in experiencing.

“The last thing you want to be is embarrassed,” Tuck said Wednesday. “This is a team if you’re not ready to play, they will embarrass you – and laugh about it. That’s point blank. I ain’t in the business of being embarrassed. I’m in the business of going out there and putting on a great show for our fans and helping us win football games.”

The Seahawks certainly have humiliated others at times this season, dropping the New Orleans Saints 34-7 a few weeks ago and the San Francisco 49ers 29-3 earlier in the season. Meanwhile, the Giants have been on the embarrassing end of a number of losses already, getting demolished 37-14 this past Sunday by the San Diego Chargers and 38-0 nothing by the Carolina Panthers in Week Three.

Like Tuck, defensive back Terrell Thomas feels they've been humiliated far too often this year and it's time for that to stop.

“I think we got embarrassed enough this season,” said Thomas. “It’s time for us to come out here and play.”

Coming off a frustrating loss to the 49ers, the boys from Seattle will be looking to draw some blood. So if the Giants hope to avoid embarrassment, they better bring an A game that has not yet been shown this season.

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8 Responses to “New York Giants, Justin Tuck not Looking to Be “Embarrassed” by Seattle Seahawks”

  1.  Krow says:

    If he changes his mind I don’t think he’s not going to have to look very far … or very long.

  2.  Krow says:

    Seattle is having one hell of a year, and I think that right now they’re the class of the NFL. I don’t like them … the roids, the attitude, the engineered home field noise … they’re a scummy bunch. But you can’t deny that they’ve got it going on. Our biggest positive heading into Sunday is that they might overlook a bottom feeder like us. They have to view us as easy pickings, so they may have trouble summoning up their A-game.

  3.  Dirt says:

    Here’s the funny thing about being eliminated with 3 games to play:

    If there’s anyone who should be focused solely on playing well, it’s the players, who have to justify contracts.

    If there’s anyone who should be focused solely on evaluating talent for next year from 1-53, it’s the coach.

    But the coach wants to win and play well like the players. Which could indicate the coach has a similar concern as the players: he has to justify his contract.

    Could Coughlin be thinking he’s coaching for his job?

    •  Chad Eldred says:

      It wouldn’t matter if we were 0-15 or 15-0, Coughlin is going to approach the final game the same either way. FF55 is right, it’s his old school mentality. I maintain my stance that these last 3 games could be put to much better use. I couldn’t care less about “respectability” or Justin Tuck playing for his last significant contract.

      Which leads me to this tangent. Make no mistake, that is what Tuck is doing. What we are seeing Tuck is playing for cash, plain and simple. Once he gets it, he will go right back to being apathetic and somewhat mediocre in his play. I like the guy and don’t blame him for looking for one last pay day. I just hope it’s someone else that gives it to him.

  4.  Dirt says:

    FWIW, I think the Giants will hang with Seattle this weekend.

  5.  fanfor55years says:

    The weather may be helping, and it may not. The Seahawks may be delayed getting in, have some trouble getting in practices, and have to deal with conditions that they aren’t used to. On the other hand, their physicality might make an overwhelming difference if it is snowing and raining as the game proceeds. The weather may also keep a lot of fans away because if the forecasts are correct the roads may be REALLY ugly and even the trains may be affected.

    They’re a FAR better team, so you have to think that they’ll win, but I can see a scenario where we do hang with them for a while because of the elements and the Hawks being taken out of their normal rhythms. In the end, though, I have to think they win comfortably while not completely embarrassing us.

    I have to be honest. I cannot recall ever having hoped the Giants lose a game, but in this one I kinda want to see them compete well but lose a close one so any thoughts of a winning season fly out the window and just perhaps at that point Coughlin decides it IS time to let some of the younger players show something when the veterans are doing very little with their playing time. The four I am most anxious to see play are Mosley, Hosley, Hankins and Robinson. They play positions of great importance that the team has to address this off-season and it would sure be nice if they had a better reading on them than what they show in practices and extremely limited game exposure.

  6.  buljos says:

    I’m starting to think that while TC’s purpose is to win the Super Bowl, that’s a season by season objective that doesn’t cross over seasons. Once this Super Bowl was an impossible objective, TC doesn’t concern himself with the next Super Bowl, and therefore want to see underdeveloped and untested active roster players better prepared for next season’s Super Bowl run. He plays football week to week, so whether the game’s vital or meaningless, he doesn’t vary his thinking. Sunday’s a game, against the Seahawks, and those who have earned the right to play every down will do so, and nothing else matters. If the Seahawks are blowing them out, Eli and the starters will still be out there, with 5 minutes to play in the 4th quarter. There is therefore no Strategic Coughlin, with a long term plan, or even a 2 season plan. Football is only about the moment… it’s tactical… at least that’s how I attempt to understand his steadfast reluctance to play Giants who desperately need regular season game reps when the games are played for nothing but “respectability.” TC’s a platoon leader.

    I’ve understood some fans to argue that pulling starters at that point to protect their play in next season ought not be a factor in TC’s decision making, because any player can get hurt out there. That’s tactical level thinking… and that’s a vital level of reasoning, but not the only level of reasoning. As someone trained in program management and systems engineering methods, decisions are largely about risk management. Risk is simply a function of Severity of Outcome, and Probability of Occurrence. That’s it. Use case: Eli’s on the field in a game played just for “respectability,” 10 minutes left in the 4th, and the Giants are getting blown out. If Eli suffers an severe injury at that point that carries over into 2014, substantially inhibiting or prohibiting his ability to play next season, the Giants are scrambling, and essentially done. That scenario would grade out as HIGH Severity of Outcome. While the Probability of Occurrence is much higher with him on the field than with him on the bench, Eli’s not currently hurt, and he’s an iron man, so a MEDIUM overall risk grade with playing him at that moment, or a LOW risk if he sits Eli at that point in that game. Those risk grades don’t dictate but inform action. TC has accepted those risk evaluations in making his decisions. He accepts the higher risk by keeping Eli in there until the last snap in a “respectability” game. The “anybody can get hurt” argument isn’t a consideration when determining the overall risk because it’s a condition of the environment that equally applies to every scenario to every player at any moment… sure, Eli can get hurt out there and Nassib can get hurt out there, but is anyone arguing the affects are equal? So, if the Probability of Occurrence reaches 1.0 at some moment (i.e. Eli’s carted off the field), then TC accepts that outcome and can’t in any way distance himself from his decision and its affect on the Giants maximizing the probability of winning future Super Bowls with this franchise QB. To TC, **** happens. The only reasoning I can come up with for that position is TC’s a tactical, not strategic thinker. Don’t get me wrong… I have greatly admired TC, and his two Super Bowl wins have established who the Giants are as a franchise today and in the future. But there’s a reason why our military’s theater commanders focus on strategy achieving mission objectives, while the platoon leaders execute tactics consistent with the commander’s strategy. TC’s the Giants platoon leader. Who’s the Giants’ commander focused on strategy achieving the mission, what does his Risk Assessment during “respectability” games reveal, and has he determined TC’s tactics are consistent with his strategy for winning as many Super Bowls with this franchise QB as possible?

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