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New York Giants’ Jeremy Horne Waived/Injured; Julian Talley Signed

August 1st, 2013 at 10:55 AM
By Dan Benton

Only a few short days after being carted off the field with what appeared to be a serious foot/ankle injury, wide receiver Jeremy Horne has apparently been waived/injured by the New York Giants.

"Like Goku, I get stronger with more damage done to my body.Time to ascend to the next level!" Horne tweeted on Wednesday.

In his place, the Giants have brought back another UMass wide receiver in Julian Talley; a first-year pro who had been with the Giants during camp last summer.

As a junior at UMass, Talley caught 56 passes for 747 yards and went on to make the All-CAA Second Team. As a senior, he failed to garner any postseason accolades; however, he improved his production to 60 catches for 759 yards. Talley was able to stay consistent in his production even without having a talented quarterback to get him the ball. That being said, the transition from college to the NFL for a wide receiver can often be daunting. When asked last year about how he expects that transition to go, Talley stressed focusing on fundamentals.

"You hear it all the time, from high school to college, college to the NFL: it's about the adjustment to the speed of the game and doing the little detailed things, the little fundamentals. You really got to stress those and if you get those down, you'll be successful," he said.

On the field, Talley has an intriguing combination of size (6'1")  and explosiveness, but he does not possess the straight away speed (4.60 40-yard dash) that, say, Victor Cruz has shown. However, he has an athletic build and showed off a 41.5-inch vertical leap at the UMass pro day. With his athleticism, Talley could become a productive NFL player if he can improve his route running ability.

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54 Responses to “New York Giants’ Jeremy Horne Waived/Injured; Julian Talley Signed”

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  1.  BigBlueGiant says:

    in b4 all the Julian Talley’s got “potential” comments.

    •  rlhjr says:

      Got to figure most of these kids are camp bodies. Pretty spoiled at WR.
      In fact, I’ve never looked at the depth chart once Nicks and Cruz reported.

  2.  fanfor55years says:

    I don’t remember Talley at all. How’d he do at camp last season?

    I’m still looking for someone to push Barden. I cannot believe that guy is back. If we wind up having to use him it will be because something is wrong.

  3.  rlhjr says:


    Krow says:
    August 1, 2013 at 11:00 AM
    We need a contest … something like ‘Who will be the 3 starting LBs for game 5?’

    The winner gets a bag of Kettle Chips … naturally.

    JimStoll says:
    August 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM
    ….with AP’s picture on the bag?

    rlhjr says:
    August 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM
    Comon bro, we been through this, Jalapeno man…..Jalapeno!

  4.  fanfor55years says:

    That’s a trick question. Different linebackers will play depending upon situation.

    I’m going to go with Rivers, Herzlich and Paysinger on first downs; Williams and Rivers on passing downs.

    The thing is, we’ve got guys who “look” like linebackers: Curry, Muasau, Herzlich and Connor; one who looks pretty much like one, Rivers; and Williams, who looks like a very slightly overgrown safety and isn’t much bigger than Nassib. I agree with GOAT that since they’ve got Moore and Tracy (if the latter makes the roster) they will probably carry only six linebackers, which would almost certainly mean that Muasau is headed back to the practice team and Etienne will either be there with him or gone.

    An interesting possibility, though, is that Curry takes the SAM position by playing up to his capability, and they then move Rivers to WILL. With Herzlich playing between them and Williams and Paysinger pretty much specializing in passing downs when one or the other will relieve Curry and sometimes Rivers too. Curry (having beaten everyone out so clearly having displayed talent), Herzlich and Rivers could be a pretty potent group of linebackers.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      One aspect Curry brings that the other Lbs don’t is that he has some pass rush skills. It might not be needed with our DEs though.

      I don’t see us going with both rivers and curry as starters. i think we start at least williams or paysinger unless rivers and curry clearly outplay the both of them. I think likely herzlich starts and williams is the nickel LB everything else is up in the air.

  5.  GOAT56 says:

    The WRs and CBs in previous rosters have had more more depth with legit NFL talent with several players we cut. This year I don’t see the depth at these positions. The shame is that talley could possibly make the roster because we might not be looking to keep barden for special teams reason and none of the other end of the roster WRs aren’t great either. Talley probably wasn’t a top 10 WR on our roster last year. CB is even weaker. After Ross/Hosley there is very little. TT could really help but he can’t be counted on and should be looked upon only as a bonus at this point.

  6.  KingAndrewXXIII says:

    I apologize, but I wanted to re-post my thoughts on Aaron Ross from last night.

    Always been a fan of A. Ross. Was sad to see him go…and glad to have him back. He may never be a true #1 CB and was probably over drafted…but he is EXTREMELY versatile being that he can play inside, outside and at safety – and as a 3rd/4th CB…is VERY solid depth! AND – HE could really be our solution as a KR/PR. We never used him there before because he was a starting CB…but I really hope he gets a look in camp.

    And I will never forget him playing Dallas with a dislocated shoulder after a nice stop against the run.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      Ross as a KR is intriguing. As a PR I feel he’s a lot like randle. But given our lack of cb depth even if ross is our 4th cb he’s still probably too valuable to risk doing those things at his age with little experience returning.

    •  rlhjr says:

      And my reply to your thought was B-I-N-G-O! And he lead with the bad shoulder.

  7.  Terrence97 says:

    its so funny and tiring seeing posts about our LBs. i have been SCREAMING for years for us to Draft a top notch LB! for years!!!!! i wanted a LB with a nasty attitude, who dont give a F, mean, dirty, and can play. id love to have a suggs, a bart scott, James Harrison, Bowman, a Aldon Smith…. type guys on this team! i forget who i kinda got in a disagreement with someone on this site during the draft about the LB situation. Get rid of perry fewell and give me a real LB and ill be happy about the direction of this D. on this roster i see a LB who can play but is ALWAYS HURT and thats Rivers. hes one tackle away from being injured! I am hopefull for Herz. Before cancer experts were talking about him like hes a top 10 pick. when he plays he makes plays. i wanna see what he can do. Curry was a beast in college and has done nothing in the league. hopefully we can get something out of him. williams shows flashes and so did spence but come on… for years this teams LBs have just deteriorated into the revolving door position…. the one year contract/prove yourself type player. the last decent players at the position was barrow/armstead…. short, dahani jones, barrett green, lavar arrington, even boley….blah blah blah blah…. we need a good playmaker. a leader. a pro bowler at the position!
    is clint sintim thinking of coming back?? LOL just joking

    •  GIANTT says:

      Terrence Terrence Terrence – what were you thinking ? Not funny man , all you are going to do with the C—t S—-m reference is get us a 3 paragraph commentary from ff55 about the lost potential blah blah blah

      •  Terrence97 says:

        LMAO! but seriously you know me, youve seen my posts, you know i have been begging since 07 for a real LB on the team. smh

        •  Krow says:

          We haven’t had a top tier LB since Antonio Pierce discover bacon sushi.

          •  rlhjr says:


            Terrence97, remember me? I’ve been begging for a linebacker (JUST ONE) for what is it now 6 years? Let’s just say this; If Reese ever selects a Pro Bowl linebacker, it will be a complete mistake. With time I’ve gotten over it……for the most part.

            And that is not to put Reese down. That’s just telling it like it is.
            The Giants have not put a premium on linebacking since selecting Jessie Armstead. That ‘s why I’m so hopeful about the steady development of Williams and Paysinger. They are all we have to look forward to.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      I agree that we need one real stud at linebacker. But it just takes one. But as long as the Giants draft where they do (remember, we WANT them drafting late with #32 being the ideal position) it’s going to be very hard to get that guy.

      In this next draft there is a guy out of UCLA who might turn out to be very good (Barr) and both of the outside linebackers for ‘Bama (Mosley and the other one, whose name I’ve forgotten) could be studs-in-training. But we’re more likely to be able to get players like Skov from Stanford, a very good player but unlikely to become elite in the NFL, or Prince Shembo (I love the name and the idea of increasing our percentage of royalty on the Giants, but I don’t think he’ll be an elite player either).

      Our best shot may be that Rivers or Curry turns out to be what their potential indicated and we can sign them to a reasonable multi-year deal. I don’t see the draft solving our problem for 2014 (one “sleeper” though is the kid from Buffalo….I have never seen him play but friends of mine who have say he could turn out to be tremendous once he escapes playing for a second-rate team). Name is Khalil or Kaheel Mack or something like that).

    •  GOAT56 says:

      it’s ironic that guys like harrison, smith and suggs to me are basically just glorified DEs. Armstead developed much like we hope Williams will this year. Not saying williams will be on that level but he still can be a good LB for us. There are many questions but the possible answers are better than i have felt in recent years. I like that we have a truly athletic group at OLB by any NFL standards. We need better play but not probowlers.

      •  rlhjr says:

        That’s a very good point about the young Armstead GOAT. We have maybe three guys on the roster who could play the sudo linebacker glorified DE role:


        We’ll see what happens if Fewell does indeed play with 34 alignments for a change of pace/look this year.

  8.  Rosedale Is Back says:

    Our linebacker situation is what it is every year you guys complain that we don’t spend a first round pick on a linebacker. Most of the top tier LBs were low round picks its about our scouting department actually doing their jobs and plucking out a stud. Or maybe one of these years Jerry Reese needs to reach down deep and actually trade up because he’s not killing the draft where I feel we need all the picks. I also hate how our coaching staff won’t give young guys there chance because of the loyalty they have for the veterans to hear that Deihl is starting over our first round pick is a joke or even Brewer who they have been grooming all these years. Our o-line played significantly better when Diehl was hurt and soon as he got back he ultimately got his spot back. These are reasons why we are stuck in the funk that we are in 9-7 and 8-8 seasons

    •  fanfor55years says:

      I’m not complaining about not picking one in the first round. Unless you’re talking LT, Reese should NOT do so. It’s too much of a transition from college to the pros to have any certainty about it and risking a top draft pick sounds like a poor risk/reward bet.

      But if we’re picking late (let’s say 30th) then our second pick isn’t until #60 and by then any really elite linebacker should be gone, leaving us with players whom the scouts cannot be sure of. And by the time we get to #90 most of the “decent” player, those who can start for you for years, are gone.

      Given that LBer is NOT a huge priority, and a tough position to evaluate, picking late is unlikely to get you a really top one.

  9.  Rosedale Is Back says:

    Besides the rookie from Carolina and Patrick Willis they’re not many stud linebackers thatget picked early. Bowman who maybe the best backer in the league was a late round pick and Lance Briggs was also a late pick I’m not on my computer to grab who made the pro bowl but I’m pretty confident that most of the 4-3 backers were late picks so us picking in the middle of the draft or the back shouldn’t matter it’s about choosing the right one instead of wasting picks on players like Austin Sintim and a list of how many other picks who haven’t turned out to be anything. If we lose Nicks which I really will with how much they are fawning over the development of Randle how many players in the Reese era have made it off their rookie contract. Beatty is the only one that comes to mind.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      JR started in 2007 so that’s only 3 classes. Bradshaw, and DeOssie were kept. Smith, boss, kp and thomas were great under their rookie contracts but all unfortunately for them got hurt in their contract years. Even guys that weren’t like Micheal Johnson, Goff and Manningham were productive for their draft round. Guys like Brown and Barden are still around too. JR isn’t without fault but you need to look deeper at his drafting record and realize that there will always be some busts.

  10.  GOAT56 says:

    For BBG:

    My 5 Giants players who’ve stood out in the early days of training camp …
    There’ll be more on this on The Blue Screen blog later today, but for now …

    1. WR Rueben Randle — Taking advantage of a big opportunity with Hakeem Nicks hurting, has shown a good burst and a knack for getting open.

    2. CB Aaron Ross — Rejuvenated by his return to New York, has picked off several passes and seems to have nose for the ball, just like he did in his early years.

    3. DE Damontre Moore — The rookie may still have a lot to learn — and it’s always hard to judge linemen before pads come on — but he is fast and can get to the QB quickly.

    4. CB Prince Amukamara — As his teammates have said, he does look more confident on the field and always in the right spot at the right time. Good hands, too.

    5. DE Adrian Tracy — Teammates rave about him and it’s easy to see why. He looks a little bigger and stronger and has a very quick first step in the pass rush.

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