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Unpredictable New York Giants Preparing for Pro Days, NFL Combine & 2013 NFL Draft

February 16th, 2013 at 3:30 PM
By Jen Polashock

The 2013 NFL Draft is two months away. The combine is viewed more now than ever. What gets pseudo-ignored is the NCAA Pro Days beginning in just a few weeks.

There is an entire schedule for more than 125 schools in the nation. Yeah, the New York Football Giants will send their scouting department to a few of them, but their job has been done for the most part. Discussing character as well as physical attributes and fit into the blue system are a part of them attempting to build a model of a draft board.

For decades, the Giants have been hush about any moves they’d possibly make. This includes draft prospects. Speculations and mock drafts (while fun for some) show that most talking heads are way off. There is never a way to predict what a private team is going to do – even based on past moves or current “needs.” What you or I (or the ”expert” pundits) believe the franchise is lacking is not always the case as far as the front office is concerned.

Last week, former Big Blue offensive lineman Luke Petitgout confessed that the Giants know what they’re doing as far as letting players go. Well, then it’s gotta be the same thing as far as who remains in uniform: the Giants know what they’re doing and who they have, and consequently when it’s deemed time for them to step up.

As for these college visits, the team will travel to some, but also have prospects come in as well as visit them privately. Don’t think for one moment that these possible draftees haven’t been pre-viewed on tape, in games, for the last few years. Every one of their games has been an audition. There are also the few favorites of blue over the years (Boston College, for one obvious reason) where they keep connections.

Where the New York Football Giants go as far as the 19th overall pick can vary, as does their version of a draft board. Although the talk surrounding General Manager Jerry Reese and the draft always ends with the phrase “best player available” repeatedly mentioned. Hold onto that thought, since it is true. They do tie in need also. It remains hard, though, to pass on a player that isn’t necessarily immediately needed, but will make the team better/stronger in a skill position (if he’s sitting there in the draft and on their board). Right now, general consensus will agree (for the most part – there are always a few that are way outside of the normal football group thinking) that an offensive tackle (possible even a guard), a defensive tackle, a corner, and linebacker are pressing needs for blue. This information doesn’t mean that the Giants won’t draft another defensive end…

April is quite some time away. Enjoy being a fan. Stop being a scrutinizing Jerry Jones-like owner/GM/coach. It makes you a cranky person. For once, watch the Pro Days and NFL Combine and discuss players and their talents (or lack thereof). Making attempts to predict the future of the 2013 New York Giants without a working crystal ball or soothsayer powers (or an “in” to the draft room) is as moot a point as waiting in the “will call” line for Super Bowl tickets now.

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14 Responses to “Unpredictable New York Giants Preparing for Pro Days, NFL Combine & 2013 NFL Draft”

  1.  fanfor55years says:

    All absolutely true Jen, but not all the truth in the world is going to keep fanatics from the fun of trying to figure out what the team will do over the next few months. C’mon, this guessing game, and the chance to “play GM” is almost as much fun as what happens during the season. After all, at this point the slate is clean, no one has been IR’d, no games have been lost that should have been won, and we can all dream about which players would take the Giants over the top.

    On the other hand, we all know we haven’t a clue what the Giants WILL do. That won’t stop us from suggesting what they SHOULD do (while knowing that 90% of the time what the team does is exactly what it should have done). Notice that 90%. I trust the Giants’ staff as much as does anyone, but I think some make the erroneous assumption that Mara, Reese, Ross, Coughlin and the scouts are infallible. Nope, they’re human, and while they may know more than we about the players and their plans, sometimes the rank outsider sees things the people closest to a problem don’t. That’s true in every part of life, and it means that on occasion WE may have it more right than the Giants. That’s not a bombastic or egotistic statement. It’s just a simple truth.

    Having said that, I cannot wait to see what they come up with in this draft because for my money this is an April where the draft seems to fit our biggest needs. I can see us coming out of the draft with 4-5 eventual starters on the Giants, a very rare occurrence indeed.

  2.  GmenMania says:

    LiberalGiant – I don’t think your point is a valid one. Say Eli was 27, had never missed a game, and performed at the level he is performing at now. Would you advocate drafting a quarterback then? No, because that would be a waste of resources.

    Eli is not an old man. He has AT LEAST 5 solid years left. Peyton is 39 and still performing at a high level. It wouldn’t be a good use of resources to draft a QB this year, because that QB would most likely be a FA before Eli retires. Especially not when we have as many needs as we currently do.

    •  Eric S says:

      Peyton turns 37 next month but your point remains valid. Liberal is simply trolling. He/She has been on this get rid of Eli kick at various points over the last several threads.

      •  GmenMania says:

        My bad, don’t know why I thought he was 39.

      •  sonnymooks says:

        I’m noticing he really has it in for Eli, that said, drafting a QB is fine, I’ve personally felt that you draft a QB every couple of years and develop them, then trade them for more picks in the future (i.e. the old Green Bay Packer model), that said, this is NOT the year to apply that theory, lol.

        In the right draft, and depending on how the team is, and which players are around, and what the draft for the NEXT year is and after should determine that. Otherwise, you are wasting money on the QB position and for, essentially a insurance policy.

        Eli costs alot of money, does anyone really want to spend more money, for the back up ? We do have a cap, I think “LiberalGiant” realizes this, and just doesn’t want or like Eli for some reason.

  3.  Krow says:

    We’ve got 5 … maybe as many as 7 … years left in the Eli Manning Era. Talk of a QB is pointless. Even if we had a shot at a great one it’d be worthless because of the salary cap. In fact there’s almost no point developing players anymore anyway. The proverbial ‘projects’ are sucker bets. Once you bring them up to speed they hit the open market. You end up being a feeder system for other clubs.

    The new way is to play the rooks. Get your full 4/5 years out of them. Then cycle in a new crop. Rinse and repeat. A handful of stars … and a bunch of guys. It sucks, but it’s the new NFL.

  4.  fanfor55years says:

    Anyone talking about drafting a quarterback is either a fool or simply pulling everyone’s chain. Nonsensical in the extreme.

    Krow, while your point is valid, it’s a bit overstated (as you no doubt know). It will be possible to combine a core group of “stars” (6-7) with another group of very solid younger veterans who know the system and will be willing to sign second contracts at reasonable prices ($2.5-$4.5MM in 2013 dollars) because they haven’t got lots of other options and then fill in with your draftees over the course of their contracts and some very intelligently acquired free agents (usually at very reasonable cost but sometimes at a premium but on a very short-term contract).

    I tend to think that as the players see the consequence of this CBA they will resolve that the next time around they are not going to be swindled by the owners, and there will be clauses written into the next contract that allow NFL teams to retain a certain number of players they drafted or signed as UDFAs by paying them up to a certain amount of money out of a “draftee/UDFA retention pool” that doesn’t count against the cap, with that pool determined by some formula that allows roughly 2 players per year to be retained who couldn’t have been otherwise. Fans would LOVE that since a lot of their favorite players would be able to remain with the same team for their entire careers, or at least all of the best years that player has to give.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      One footnote: drafting a QB in the 6th or 7th round with an eye toward developing him as a great trading chip is not a terrible idea. I don’t think that’s a great idea this year because of the need to add speed and quality at a number of positions, making a developmental pick at QB a luxury that sounds unaffordable.

      But drafting a QB to replace Eli? Give me a break.

      •  GmenMania says:


      •  sonnymooks says:

        I should have elaborated in my earlier post, that from round 5 on out, that said, you are totally right.

        The packers have been drafting Qbs in earlier rounds for years, developing them, and then trading them for more picks. Pretty good strategy.

      •  Krow says:

        In a sense yes, but that group of mid-to-low priced veterans won’t be static. They’ll be like Mario Manningham and Locklear. Guys who GMs like Reese pick up on the cheap. Constantly churning from team to team.

  5.  Samardzija says:

    What QB has the Packers developed over the last years that they ended up trading for picks?

  6.  CT GIANT says:

    The Pats do this, and yes, it has worked, going back to Bledsoe, who Bill Parcells did not want, but Kraft did. After getting hurt, here comes a 6Th rounder, Tom Brady, Mat Cassel, and another two QB’s who might be traded on there roster.
    This is not how this organization works at all, no, when a QB is needed they already have some young kids there looking at, 4-5 years down the road.
    Phil Simms, a Morehead State kid, was actually worked out by Bill Walsh, so he wasn’t that unknown in the “real NFL football world”.

  7.  CT GIANT says:

    Anyone thinking LB at #19 take Alex Ogletree LSU off your list, he got busted for a DUI, and further was already suspended 4 games for drug use!
    Not Reese’s type guy? To small anyways.

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