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Contract Details: New York Giants, Shaun Rogers Agree to Split Contract

February 10th, 2013 at 12:30 PM
By Dan Benton

On Thursday, the New York Giants re-signed defensive tackle Shaun Rogers to a one-year deal worth a reported $940,000. However, that's not exactly how his contract is broken down, as the Giants added some provisions as a way to protect themselves in the event Rogers lands back on Injured Reserve (IR).

Jenny Vrentas of The Star-Ledger recently provided the most detailed and accurate breakdown of this one-year deal.

Although the one-year deal is worth a base salary of $940,000, there are several provisions and escalators that could make Rogers' new deal worth a total of $1.005 million. Included are a weight bonus of $45,000 (no word on what the weight limit is) and a signing bonus of $20,000, which is automatically added to the overall total.

However, the contract also protects the Giants in the event Rogers lands on IR. If that occurs, the new contract will be split, lowering his 2013 salary to $433,000.

Further, because of the veteran minimum salary benefit rule, Rogers' new deal only counts $555,000 against the cap.

All in all, it's a pretty solid deal for the Giants, especially if Rogers can stay healthy, reach his goal weight and be productive.

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32 Responses to “Contract Details: New York Giants, Shaun Rogers Agree to Split Contract”

  1.  Krow says:

    The more I think on it the more I’m convinced that Diehl isn’t going anywhere … well, anywhere soon.

    Reese is faced with a very fluid OL situation. Two starters up for free agency. A mess at ROT. An under-performing center. And TC’s son-in-law … who also didn’t play to his contract level last year. It’s a class-A disaster.

    With so much up for grabs I don’t think he’s parting ways with a proven, versatile, professional OT/OG like Diehl till he’s 100% sure he can put out this dumpster fire.

    Like it or not Diehl is a seasoned campaigner. He plays all over the line. Knows the system like the back of his hand. And despite last season he’s played well in the past. He’s also a team-first kind of guy, and good in the locker room. A Giant of long standing. A ‘Coughlin guy’. Under contract too.

    He may end up gone. It’s a business after all. But until the dust settles I don’t see them showing him the door.

    I’ll predict it right now … you’re going to see old #66 in camp this year. He may not make it out … but I bet he makes it in.

    •  Dirt says:

      Yup. And possibly starting at LT.

      •  demo3356 says:

        no way in blue hell David Diehl is the starting LT next season.. Eli personally will pay Beatty the Franchise number out of his salary before he lets that happen.

        •  rlhjr says:

          Keep Diehl? If they are even thinking about that why not go after Anthony Munoz there can not be very much difference in performance, and Tony would be cheaper. Jesus H Christ……………

        •  G-MenFan says:

          I’ll chip in.

    •  shmitty013 says:

      I’d think the only reason Diehl is still here is because nothing has been resolved with Beatty. So they only have 2 tackles under contract that were on the active roster last year in Diehl and Brewer. So it’s probably more of an insurance thing than anything else. Once the Beatty situation is figured out, either by a new deal or franchise tag, I think Diehl is gone.

      •  demo3356 says:

        agree completely. I’d throw Boothe in their too. I believe Deihl is being kept around as insurance at both spots but once either is re signed and the Giants draft some people Diehl will be shown the door or offered a new deal at about 1/3 the 2013 cap hit

  2.  demo3356 says:

    JR should round up all the New York Giants Free agents and get them along with their agents to sit down in the Met life Auditorium and listen to a seminar.. Speakers at this seminar will be
    Gibril Wilson
    Kavicka Mitchell
    Reggie Torbor
    Steve Smith
    Kevin Boss
    Plaxico Buress
    Brandon Jacobs
    Michael Johnson
    Aaron Ross
    Dave Toelfson
    David Carr
    Derrick Ward
    These guys can all tell their stories about how well leaving the Giants organization in free agency worked out for them. They can talk about how it may not be all about who offers the most money..

    •  Krow says:

      I’d be a cautionary tale … full of monsters and sea dragons. In the end the players are swept over the falls at the edge of the earth … while their agents laugh from a safe distance.

  3.  sonnymooks says:

    Have you seen what franchise QBs cost ? The offense is built around Eli, and in todays NFL, you CAN NOT win without a franchise QB.

    If they dump him (god forbid), then they have to get another franchise QB, and thats not cheap either, and they have to develop said QB.

    The colts “lucked out” by losing Peyton, and wound up worse in the league, only to draft another QB who costs alot, and who is developing very well, but he is going to hit that high salary in just a couple of years. This isn’t like RBs, you can’t keep turning that position over every couple of years.

    Unfortunatly, QBs, good, franchise QBs don’t grow on trees. We need Eli pretty much more then he needs us. When he goes, we are going to have to rebuild.

    As for getting teams to the playoffs on a perennial basis, I’d take Eli’s 2 SuperBowl MVPs over any QB who goes to the playoffs and loses every year.

    With salary cap management, you have a few guys you pay and build around, those are the guys that are hardest to replace, and pay everyone else down from that, based on how good they are and how easy it is to replace them.

    The Giants will cut Eli loose one day, when they have another franchise QB that they can replace him with, and then, it’ll be awhile before they can win another superbowl (and thats assuming they hit on that pick, if they don’t, your looking at a pretty dark time).

    •  Krow says:

      Usually this is true. But because of the scarcity … and the cost … you see teams going with rookies and employing college offenses. Seattle, SF, Washington … they all went this way … and all did well.

      •  Eric S says:

        I think Seattle is more of a traditional offense that sprinkles in some of the college stuff. Both San Fran and Seattle went far on the strength of their run games and defenses. RGIII was a phenom but his long term viability as a running QB is in doubt. He’ll need to conform to a more traditional QB role if he wants to have a long career. Scrambling can still be a part of his game but the designed runs will have to go away and thats a huge part of what he does. Once teams break down the tape the read/option will fade.

        •  sonnymooks says:

          Interesting, in that all 3 of those teams, have have coaches that come from the west coast offense schools.

          It honestly looks like these offenses are not so much reinventing the wheel as they are evolving the west coast offense with alot of new wave concepts.

          That said, you need to protect your QB, he is a major investment, if you decide to devalue you QB by going to with a full time risky style of play, you then need a strong back up.

          So instead of “overpaying” for one, you now have to pay more out for 2….Thats not really a good solution. In fact thats probably an even worse problem to have.

  4.  Sparky says:

    Not quite understanding this split contract thing. If it is a one year contract and he gets IR’d in the preseason before the regular season starts what good is the lesser number of $433,000.00? I thought that once they met that salary cap at whatever date it is the team could sign street free agents to replace people who were put on IR.

    Never understood the whole cap thing but I can’t understand why this is a “good” deal considering it is One Year. I like the signing because of the DT situation; just don’t understand the convoluted numbers game.

    •  jb322 says:

      The cap applies only to the 51 highest salaries on the team. With a veteran minimum of $550,000. His number drops off the cap. Ditto for those 3rd,4th, and 5th draft picks who are usually paid below that number. That allows a team to bring 90 guys to camp and not bust the cap. Once the season starts I believe it jumps to 53 salaries.

  5.  rlhjr says:

    I think Eli whispers to Reese two years prior to his retirement. And When the time comes, he’ll smile, wave goodbye, put his hands in his pockets and stroll away. Sun set or sun rise.

    •  sonnymooks says:

      I doubt it, I HATE, HATE, HATE saying this, because it always breaks my heart, but players are almost always the very last guys to know that its over.

      Even their agents know before the player himself does, and there is always one owner (even if Al Davis is dead now) who still doesn’t get the memo and thinks the player has another year or two in the tank.

      If Eli whispers in J.R. ear about 2 years, it’ll be the day before he is already getting cut.

      FWIW, One of the reasons I hate agents today, is that, they know their clients are beaten up, they know its over, they know the best thing to do is to tell the player to call it a career, and to walk away, and yet, they still chase that extra dollar, from somebody, anybody, leaving behind more damage to that players body, unncessary long term damage. I personally think its wrong.

      •  rlhjr says:

        I can’t argue bro…history speaks loud and clear. I’d like to think Eli would be different. I can also understand why he might not.

    •  Sparky says:

      David Carr will then be able to step in and win a Superbowl at the ripe age of 40, the Giants should then have a good O-Line (again) and he will have only had about 28 plays under his belt in 10 years and avoid the beating that Eli has taken in the past 2 years (and he will know the system).

  6.  KingAndrewXXIII says:

    Many have discussed CWeb taking a pay cut, etc. but I am in the group for cutting him. His play has DRAMATICALLY declined and he is on the wrong side of 30. Cutting Webster would free up enough money to pursue a guy like Antoine Cason – who was a complete STUD coming out of Arizona and has been solid in San Diego…and is younger and will come cheaper than Webster.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4734/antoine-cason

    An outside CB duo of Prince and Cason, with Hosley and a 1st/2nd round pick would be a VERY solid, YOUNG secondary that the team could continue to build around. I certainly think it’s something worth looking into…especially if he would come in cheaper than Webster. Even if Webster restructured down to 5M a season…Cason is the better player at this point in his career and would make the most sense.

    •  rlhjr says:

      That sounds good on the financial front. I can remember seeing Cason play with the Chargers. I thought he was pretty good. Like Diehl, it can’t be very hard to find a better performance than what was shown ast season.

      That could be one worth watching.

      •  demo3356 says:

        Not likely to happen.. If Cwebb goes it wil be to free up money to keep our own guys like Cruz, Beatty, Bennett, Booth KP etc.. More likely that Webster redoes his deal and comes back at a much lesser 2013 number

  7.  Sparky says:

    The whole Corey Webster drama is interesting at best, but, what does he think his value is? How many teams are going to pay him $7,000,000.00 or more on a contract? How many teams are going to believe his injury was the reason for the decline this season? He is worth keeping but he is not a shut down CB that he is suppose to be on a regular basis.

    I think and hope he will be back in the $4,000,000.00 range especially if watched his tape and the aforementioned symposium mentioned by Demo.

    •  KingAndrewXXIII says:

      Even at 4M, I would get rid of him and pursue a younger, better player like Cason, Derek Cox, etc. even if that means making up the difference of 1M or so; still less than the 7M currently on the books…and for a more quality player. Of course, that’s assuming CWeb even takes a 3M discount to stay. That’s a LOT of money for a player to just relinquish – even after a poor season…not so sure he is just going to agree to reduce by that much anyway.

      •  Sparky says:

        You’re discounting continuity against value. In this system you need to play together for a while to be successful, that’s why the Giants have won a few trophy’s.

        There is difference in evaluating continuity when negotiating value. I would keep C Webb at a lower price then bring a value FA.

        •  sonnymooks says:

          Remember the “O.D.O.” Theory…..aka “One dumb Owner”…….All it takes is one dumb owner to throw money at someone who doesn’t deserve it.

          Every….Single…..Solitary……Season, a dumb owner will grossly, and stupidly overpay a player beyond what even that player and his agent thought his value was.

          Personally, I thought the ODO theory was going to hit Beatty, but now I am not so sure.

          As for Webster, well, same story, one dumb owner sees the superbowl rings, past greatness, ignores the age, and says this guy has a few more great years in him, and throws him more money then he knows what to do with it (he knows what not to do, and thats say no, lol).

  8.  Dirt says:

    Y’all can dismiss it all you want, but if Beatty snags a big offer, Super Bowl XLVI starting left tackle David Diehl will be the starting left tackle of the 2013 New York Giants, as much as I and you all hate the thought of it. And I really hate the thought of it. But for some reasons I outlined yesterday, I don’t think it’s unlikely.

    I hope I’m wrong.

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