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New York Giants Have Only One Remaining Playoff Scenario

December 24th, 2012 at 6:30 AM
By Dan Benton

'David Baas (64), Eli Manning (10)' photo (c) 2012, Mike Morbeck - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ A few short weeks ago, the New York Giants not only controlled their own playoff destiny, but had the opportunity to all but wrap-up the NFC East with a victory over the Washington Redskins. A combined 1-3 record later and not only have they been eliminated from NFC East contention, but face very long odds to even make the playoffs.

Following another dominant Seattle Seahawks win on Sunday, the Giants now have only one avenue to the playoffs … and they have the Dallas Cowboys to thank for that opportunity. Had Dallas defeated the New Orleans Saints in week 16, Big Blue would have been eliminated, but instead, their loss offers the Giants a glimmer of hope.

In order for their title defense to continue, the Giants now have to beat the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday and have the Detroit Lions upset the Chicago Bears, the Green Bay Packers to beat the Minnesota Vikings and the Washington Redskins to win the NFC East by defeating or tying the Cowboys.

Then, and only then, would the Giants find themselves in the playoffs as a #6 seed.

In this scenario, the Giants would then travel to either Seattle or San Francisco to take on either the Seahawks or 49ers depending on the outcome of their respective games.

Yes, it's a long-shot, but it is possible.

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25 Responses to “New York Giants Have Only One Remaining Playoff Scenario”

  1.  Krow says:

    I’d like to send Andy Reid off to his next job with a loss. I’m tired of us being his personal b-tch all these years.

    And that crazy playoff scenario … it’s not totally impossible.

  2.  Remy says:

    I remember a few years ago when they flunked out in similar fashion, yet rallied to stick it to the Redskins to close out the season (the “line up and kiss my ****” year), but this year? I don’t see it happening, and this talk about resting guys with injuries indicates they’ve quit on the year, and are ready to move on. Hell, Coughlin said they’ve flat-lined….

    I hate the Eagles more than anything, and I’d love to see their season end with another brutal loss, and at the hand of their hated rival. Don’t see it happening though. The only silver-lining is found in draft stock, and right now that’s not much consolation to me.

  3.  Remy says:

    By the way, where the hell is Norm?

  4.  Krow says:

    I think all this talk of coaching is wrong. I’m no Fewell fan, but we won a Superbowl with him … and two with TC and KG. The coaches aren’t missing tackles and blowing plays. That’s not to say we couldn’t use some changes. But this tank job isn’t all on them. Not by a long shot.

    •  Remy says:

      I might be way off, but it seems to me that the success of the D is solely predicated on an effective rush (fancy that), and the decline of the play on the line came a hell of a lot quicker than anyone saw coming. Tuck hasn’t been the same for 2 seasons (hell, even 3), Canty can’t stay healthy, Bernard at this point is just a guy, the German was green- then gone, and Austin isn’t anything. Osi has been what Osi has always been – a good player for spurts, but also invisible for long patches. Rebuild around Linval & JPP – they need another guy opposite JPP, and he’s not in the league yet.

      With a rebuilt line, and with a real corner opposite Amukamara – this D is back in good shape. The o-line on the other hand….

  5.  Krow says:

    If you look at our team … and then look at the teams who are the leading contenders … what jumps out at me are two things. They’re more athletic … and more enthusiastic. Faster and more aggressive. Pretty much across the board.

    We have that look of an old, fading team. A team whose time has passed. A team getting worse instead of better. A team on the down.

    Who are our young, hungry, aggressive players? We only have a handful compared to other teams. Who are our athletic freaks? Our big hitters? Who do we have who puts fear in the guys on the other side?

  6.  Krow says:

    I also feel that the NFL is shifting away from skill and technique … and towards athleticism. As the practice times are increasingly limited the ability of teams to install complicated schemes diminishes. Teams just don’t have the reps to perfect the type of nuanced offenses and defenses we’ve seen this past decade. They’re going to have to simplify and depend on speed and power. It’s no accident that mobile QBs are beginning to dominate the NFL. Colleges have been this way for years … and for the same reason. Those schemes are easier to grasp in a limited timeframe. The NFL had the luxury of time, and could raise their play to another level. That’s advantage is disappearing. The end result is that the pros will look more and more like collegians. And rookies will fit in a lot quicker.

  7.  James Stoll says:

    I’m a little surprised no one gets hyperbole. It’s a rhetorical tool utilized to express a concept. Last thread I used it to express the concept that the Giants flat out quit this year, just like in 2009 and 2010. No one seems to get it, but it’s ok; I won’t run off like FF just because I get hated on.
    I’ll be a little more straight-forward this go-around:

    1. Ok, we stunk yesterday worse than even the week before. Who would have thought that possible? The Ravens had 18 players on their Friday injury report including their starting LB and S. Their best receiver was coming off a concussion and they had lost 3 strait games. And with all that, the Giants were never even remotely in the game. That has to make everyone question what is going on in the Meadowlands.

    2. The candidates formwhy we stunk so badly yesterday are a). Too many injuries; b). Lack of talent; c). Poor coaching here there and everywhere; or d). All or some combination of the above. Probably the latter is true but that is the least satisfying because it says everything is wrong, which too me sounds like so much is wrong that nothing is wrong; that is, only a radical house cleaning fixes that and this organization will never do that unless and until the team actually goes completely off the cliff (ala Fassel’s final 4-12 campaign).

    3. Injuries can’t be the excuse as the Ravens yesterday showed us.

    4. It is always fair to question the talent as players always decline and many have flash in the pan careers. We can see that the only 2 players who performed consistently well all season were Prince and Cruz, prince more so when healthy.
    Everyone else under-performed to greater or lesser degrees. The problem with the talent issue is it is a slow fix and of course just as you replace one piece another is eroding.

    5. Sticking with the talent, the team needs an offensive line badly. Snee and Diehl both look to be done. Baas has been a major disappointment. Boothe is serviceable but not great. Beatty is good but not great. As a group we cannot run block and the pass protection is just horrendous. Over the past weeks, some have posted stats as to how our line grades out statistically; to them I say use your eyes. The defense looked so bad this year it is hard to know who is worth keeping and what needs fixing. On the D-Line we suddenly question the ability of every player other than JPP, who despite having a very disappointing third season is young and very athletic ( although I’ll say it again, he looked like he gained too much weight this year). Most expect Osi to depart and Tuck to retire – who knows if either will happen. But what does that leave us at DE? But even more disappointing was the DT play, especially LJ. And other than Rolle and Prince, (and perhaps Kiwi although his season was lackluster as well) is their another defender on this squad who you would say is reliably healthy and consistently good enough to build around?

    6. Then there is the coaching. I see a few are calling for Fewel’s head and rightfully so. The defense has been dreadful the past two seasons. This year’s version looked a lot like Bill Sheridan’s 2009 edition, and Tim Lewis’ 2006 entry into the Hall of Shame. What I am constantly amazed by is that no one calls for Coughlin’s head, or even Gilbride’s. It doesn’t matter to me that Coughlin won’t get fired despite what we may desire, nothing we desire matters in the real world. The question is whether he should be. I would suggest there are several reasons why he should be. First, all coaches have a shelf life and 9 years is a long time with the same team. Year 10 I think will make him the longest tenured coach in team history, but one of the longest in the league today. Second, assuming Coughlin is responsible for hiring his coordinators, his history says he’s pretty bad at it.
    Coughlin gave us Tim Lewis, Bill Sheridan and Perry Fewell, all pretty big disasters. There is still dispute over whether he did or did not hire Spags, but leta say he did, that’s three bad choice. TC also hired Huffnagel and only fired him at the point of a gun following the horribly dissatisfying 2006 campaign. Of course he replaced him with the Genius who seems to have the unique ability to design an offense that amass lots of yards, plenty of FG opportunities, and stunningly few TDs.
    Third, results. There was a time when people could argue that TC had us a perennial playoff team. That argument no longer really exists since with this year we will have missed the playoffs altogether in 3 of the last 4 seasons. Over Coughlin’s 9 years, the team is 5-4 in terms of trips to the tournament. There is the issue of the 2 championships, which are hard to address because after all a result is a result. But each of those regular seasons were unimpressive to downright lackluster (10-6//9-7). The fact that somehow the team got on a roll and beat all comers against great odds, strikes me more as an anomaly then it does as evidence of fine coaching. The repeated collapses, no shows, blowout losses; those strike me as more emblematic of the quality of coaching. Again, I know I’m tilting at windmills here, but why is it that the guy at the head has no accountability? Put slightly differently, short of voluntary retirement, what will it take to send him packing? Another 8-8, second half collapse, playoff absent season? Does the disaster have to be bigger? Remember, beginning as early as next year, the playoffs may be expanded to 14 or 16 team’s, which could mean that 7-9/8-8 will be good enough to be in the playoffs. With half the league guaranteed to be in the playoffs, will Coughlin have to deliver 2-14 results to exit stage right? Most likely I fear.

    7. As for the playoff scenario, I’ll be stunned if the Giants beat the Eagles next Sunday. If yesterday proved nothing, it showed that this team has quit. Moreover, the Eagles proved yesterday that they have rediscovered the ability to fight. They may not be very good, but they now want to try. The Giants won’t win. And even if they do, one of the Bears or Packers is likely to win on Sunday. The Pack has little to play for (seeding perhaps) and the Lions are in disarray. So it’s over, and it should be. In a perverse way it would be unfortunate to beat the 4-11 Eagles on Sunday, have all other games go as needed, and then travel west to have our jocks shoved down our throat. I know, I know, playoffs, you never know, we’ve done it before. But it ain’t happen in’!

    In any event, that’s a wrap. See y’all in 2013.

  8.  Krow says:

    The loss of practice time … in pads … can’t be underestimated. Gilbride’s offense and Fewell’s defense are both complicated. They depend on instant, consistent reads. It takes time and repetition to get that down. And it has to be done perfectly. One blown assignment and it’s all busted.

    Too many times our team seemed confused … befuddled. Many resulted in disaster. It may be that the time has passed for this type of football.

    Musing here … don’t mind me.

    •  James Stoll says:

      Doesn’t that suggest coaching? Too complicated? Too much of The Genius? Too little of a head coach telling the Genius to cut it out?
      If you can’t practice and practice is needed to perfect your hieroglyphic system, perhaps you should change it.

      By the way, great assessment above on the evolution of the game to backyard football.
      Not good for Eli though.

      •  Krow says:

        No, not good at all. While Eli may be able to grasp the complexities of our offense what are the odds that everyone else will? This may be rough on Andrew Luck too … the inheritor of this style of play.

        •  James Stoll says:

          If athleticism is the watchword for the future, Luck may be ok. He is far more athletic than Eli ever dreamed of being.

  9.  rlhjr says:

    We could blame the coaching staff and not be far wrong. I suspect Fewell hides behind the talent the Giants “used” to have on their defensive line.

    Gilbride hides behind the cohesion of the former offensive line that Reese (YES SAINT REESE) let deteriorate right in front of his face. And the fact the Eli has a mind that took on all the wacky schemes Gilbride could draw up.

    The Giants defensive backfield along with the front four being dominant is what won both Superbowls for this team. Eli did his thing, so did Bradshaw, Jacobs, Smith, Strahan, Tuck, Osi, Pierce you can go right down the list.

    Fewell (or Cory Webster for that matter) doesnt look real good because the Giant D-line is for all intents and purposes gone. And there is little to nothing to fall back on.

    The only unit with an up side on this defense is the defensive backfield.
    Thats due mainly to Role, Hill, Brown and Amukamura and Hosley.
    But whn you ask the question “where’s the beef?” Their is no clear answer.
    The two units who play inf front of the DB’s are in a word awful.

    Nicks may be all world, but he needs a backup. Randle has all the talent in the world. He just has not shown work ethic. From center to RT the offensive line needs to be replaced. It’s unfortunate that Snee just signed a deal. Not sure what was gaurantied. Snee has a knack for holding on plays that:

    a. Are pivital in winning or prolonging drives.
    b. Where holding was not required.

    Put quite simply, there are more holes than there is money (FA) and draft picks to fill. And it’s due to the bottom line financial guidelines, and the fact that this scouting department is not all that. The offensive line alone is going to take two years to fix.

    If the team is not enamored with Tracy and Ojomo and Austin is indeed seriously injured, it’s going to take at least another two years to work youngsters in. And if God forbid Reese see’s fit to so much as “look and a MIKE and a SAM………….Get the picture? Get used to 8-8, 7-9 records for the next four years.

    Eli will be playing behind a paper mecha line until then. Good luck keeping him healthy and playing at anythig close to a high level. I mean no run blocking along with no pass protection? Come on man.

  10.  rlhjr says:

    I think every one of these players want nothing to do with playing another game past this coming Sunday. Even those playing a anything close to a high level can not be enjoying the total collapse of their team.

    It’s very sad actually. They realize they are done. Like being told you have a disease that there is no cure for. LACK-OF-TALENT-ITS
    And it has sucked the heart out of each and every one of these players.
    They want to go home.

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