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New York Giants Offense Must Carry Its Weight Against New Orleans Saints

December 7th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
By Paul Tierney

'Eli Manning' photo (c) 2012, Mike Morbeck - license: The New York Giants have their backs to the wall on Sunday. A loss to the 5-7 New Orleans Saints could strip Big Blue of the division lead and throw them into the blood bath that is the NFC Wild Card race.

To preserve control of their Super Bowl defense, the Giants have to beat  a talented football team this weekend. And while it may be fun to think about how the defense can stop Drew Brees, the reality is that they probably won't. The onus is going to fall on Eli Manning and Co. to put up a lot of points and hope the defense holds up.

The Saints have the NFL's last ranked defense, as they have allowed 5,286 yards of total offense through 12 games. New Orleans ranks 28th in points allowed, 20th in sacks and 18th in turnover margin. There is nothing spectacular, intimidating or even mildly impressive about this unit. The Saints defense had been a complete train wreck this season and is the major contributing factor to the team's losing record so far. Although the talent is not there, Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride says New Orleans' scheme is difficult to attack.

“It’s the old Philadelphia, Jim Johnson defensive scheme, which is a great scheme,” offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride said. “It’s one you have to be right on your toes to see where the pressure is coming from and then they’ll play just enough man or two-high that if you keep everybody in to protect against the blitz, you’re sitting there with seven guys blocking and they have eight guys dropping defensively.”

Perhaps the most disappointing aspect of the Giants' loss to the Washington Redskins last Monday was that the offense only managed 16 points. There are reasons for that, as Hakeem Nicks isn't healthy, lack of depth at running back, Sean Locklear is out for the season and the list goes on.

However, those issues are not going to be solved any time soon. Although the Saints defense is not impressing anybody this season, the Redskins are on pace to give up more passing yards than any other team in NFL history. 

The offensive game plan was flawed, as Eli Manning only threw the ball 11 times in the second half. David Wilson only received four carries, while Kregg Lumpkin was having screen passes thrown to him in the backfield. The team was plagued by a myriad of penalties and the rushing attack was relatively ineffective. If the Giants want to have a chance to win on Sunday, the coaches and players have a lot of things they need to clean up. Despite their lackluster performance last week, Big Blue is still confident in themselves.

“There (are) definitely opportunities there,” Cruz said. “There’s things we feel like we can take advantage of.”

There is a chance that the offense will have to produce 30 or more points to win the game on Sunday. If the team that came out against the Green Bay Packers shows up, there are going to be some happy Giants fans come Sunday night.

However, if this team plays an undisciplined, poorly executed game plan like they did last week, there's a chance that the Giants are going to be scoreboard watching for the rest of the season. The offense must drastically improve upon last week's performance to avoid such a scenario.


Tags: David Wilson, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Football, Green Bay Packers, Hakeem Nicks, Kevin Gilbride, Kregg Lumpkin, New Orleans Saints, New York, New York Giants, NFL, Sean Locklear, Washington, Washington Redskins

17 Responses to “New York Giants Offense Must Carry Its Weight Against New Orleans Saints”

  1.  Levito says:

    Good points in this article. At the same time the defense will have to do itself some favors and get off the field quickly. They can’t afford to let the Saints own TOP and then get gassed in the 2nd half as we’ve seen a few times this season.

    •  JimStoll says:

      if Gilbride is calling the saints the old jim johnson philadelphia eagles scheme, get ready for a good bed wetting by the giant offense

      •  Levito says:

        I think it’s more a compliment than truth. They are a Jim Johnson defense in that they are very aggressive and blitz from anywhere and everywhere. They are not a Jim Johnson defense in that they’re really bad. I don’t ever remember a Jim Johnson defense which wasn’t one of the best in the league.

        It’s probably a personnel issue more than anything. Too bad for Spags though, because he may be looking for a job again after the season is over.

    •  Paul Tierney says:

      Agreed on your points about the defense. However, they gave up 17 points last week. That should have been enough to win the game, but the offense could not get the job done against one of the worst defenses in the league. The offense must be near dominant for this team to win on Sunday.

  2.  JimStoll says:

    we have a way of making bad defenses look good
    our o-line flat out stinks
    it is especially bad against the blitz, any blitz
    Diehl always gets beat like a drum
    Beatty had possibly his worst game of the season last week in the 2d half
    with Nicks slowed; Cruz doubled; and no decent third option, the giants will struggle to score
    they need 30 to win
    I’m hoping but my guess is Saints 38 Giants 10

  3.  Nosh.0 says:

    Paul you nailed it. The defense hasn’t been the problem this season. No they haven’t been the dominant unit we hoped when the season began but it’s been the offense, specifically the passing game that has held us back.

    Week 1 Dallas, Last week Skins game, Steelers game, and Philly. In all of those games the offense was given a chance to win the game, specifically in the 4th Q and was unable to do so.

    If theres been a theme of the season, and it started week one, it’s what the h.e.I.L. happened to the passing game?

    •  JimStoll says:

      bad o-line
      hobbled nicks
      doubled cruz
      no 3d weapon
      lousy running game
      eli at 85% of what he was last year, especially with the long ball

      •  Nosh.0 says:

        Still with all that you’d think we would be able to move it better. I remember 2010, specifically when Smith and Nicks went down, how Eli still found a way to move the ball through the air.

        I think the theme that no one wants to talk about is that Eli hasn’t played well this year. Not anything close to what he was from 2009-2011.

        •  JimStoll says:

          he has been off
          repeatedly underthrowing balls
          missing guys wide open
          85% of eli is better than most QB’s, but with a defense that can’t dominate, especially late in the game, and with a coordinator who freezes in the red zone, if Eli is not perfect outside the 30 it makes it very hard for this offense to score TDs

  4.  Nosh.0 says:

    As for my point earlier, it’s really just a matter of expectations. The Eli is elite drum has been beaten to death on this site over the years (myself included). In fact a large amount of posters on here claim he’s the best in the NFL.

    Well, I expect the best in the NFL to make the playoffs every season. I just do, if you don’t then the title of “Elite” or “best” doesn’t really mean a whole lot. In fact, if not making the playoffs this year is anything but a colossal disappointment, I question how sincere people are when they say that Eli is great.

    You can’t have it both ways. If you think Eli and TC are the class of the NFL then you expect to make the playoffs. If you don’t hold them in that high regard, then missing the playoffs is not a big deal.

    We’re now into December. No more sorry excuses like no third option or inconsistent OL play. The OL was terrible last season, and we won because our QB played like the best in the league.

    So basically what I’m asking Eli to do these next few games is play like a top 3 QB and get us into the playoffs. And if you’re not demanding that of him then you clearly don’t think too highly of him.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      Of course we would all be disapointed if we don’t make the playoffs this year. I were I and others lose you is connecting this one year to defining their legacy. If GB suffers a bad streak and doesn’t make the playoffs this year does it mean Rodgers isn’t great?

      I agree about expecting Eli to play great and help us get into the playoffs. But like F55 was saying he still can’t do it by himself. Even as great as he was last year the defense got us into the playoffs with improved play down the stretch. I think Eli needs to play better and he has the last few weeks. He needs to continue that and even step it up just a little. But I don’t believe that Eli playing great automatically equals wins or the playoffs though it sure helps a whole lot.

  5.  Krow says:

    I thought Eli was pretty much back to form the last 2 games. But let’s be realistic … Nicks is nowhere near himself … and Mario is gone. With Cruz the focus of the secondary that leaves Eli with few good options. And the OL is not so strong that Bennett can float into the zones on every play.

    So on most plays he’s faced with trying to hit the double-teamed Cruz, throwing at a hobbled Nicks, or trying to figure out where the hell Randle went.

    •  Nosh.0 says:

      You’re right. He has been good these past 2 weeks. Last week against the Skins I blame coaching as they ran it far too much in the second half.

      If you’re gonna go out, go out on #10′s right arm.

  6.  Krow says:

    So just for the sake of argument … who would we classify as an elite QB … other than Eli?

    Peyton Manning
    Tom Brady
    Drew Brees
    Ben Roethisberger
    Aaron Rogers

    •  Nosh.0 says:

      Yeah I’d do it like this
      Peyton and Brady: Reg and Post season success. Have been consistently dominant for most of their careers.

      Elite: (No particular order)
      Eli: Has the ability to get hot in the 4th Q and basically says “sorry but there’s no effing way I’m losing this game”

      Brees and Rogers: Have 1-3 games per year where they’re so on from the opening whistle that the opponent has about 0-1% chance of winning.

      Big Ben: Is a rapist, and gets hurt too often, but certainly has those big 4th Q **** that you like your QB to have.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      I think this has been the consensus list that most reasonable football fans can agree on.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      I just realized that no other active starting QB has a ring. That’s 10 rings. And I think the last 10 SB winners off the top of my head.

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