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Jason Pierre-Paul on New York Giants Defense: “I Think We’re a Little Soft”

December 6th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
By Dan Benton

'Jason Pierre-Paul' photo (c) 2012, Mike Morbeck - license: Only a day after safety Antrel Rolle said the New York Giants defense needs to get a little "nasty," defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul backed up his teammate by saying the team has gone "soft."

“I’m behind Rolle a 100%. I think we’re a little soft," Pierre-Paul said. "We haven’t played our best game this year. I know, for a fact, we haven’t played that game. As a defense, we have to make a statement.”

JPP went on to say the reason the defense hasn't played its best game is because they aren't playing like a team, adding that they will continue to go "downhill" until that issue is corrected.

"We’re all not playing together. When you’re on a team, in a position like this, you have to play together as one. Otherwise, you’ll keep going downhill," he said.

More than "soft," the right word to describe the Giants' defense would be "inconsistent." Against both the San Francisco 49ers and Green Bay Packers, they were able to show how dominant they can be, but then there were games like the one against the Cincinnati Bengals where they were completely overmatched from the onset. And, of course, the game against the Pittsburgh Steelers where they just collapsed down the stretch.

So, how do they fix what ails them and find some greater level of consistency?

"You have to come in and just listen," he said. "Don’t think you know it all. Just come in and listen and things will be alright."

You can bet defensive coordinator Perry Fewell will have a lot to say this week, so perhaps the players should all take JPP's advice and just listen.


Tags: Antrel Rolle, Football, Jason Pierre-Paul, New York, New York Giants, NFL, Perry Fewell

36 Responses to “Jason Pierre-Paul on New York Giants Defense: “I Think We’re a Little Soft””

  1.  demo3356 says:

    We are going to have a really hard time matching up with the Redskins moving forward due to our tiny front 7 being a horrible match for what they do. I think we may be one of the smallest front 7?s in the league and what the Redskins due with the zone blocking and read options, we arent built to stop it as currently constituted. Osi and Kiwi are smallish ends and Boley is one of the smallest LB’s in the league as is Williams. Massive 3/4?s like Pittsburg, Baltimore, San Fran, Houston or 4/3?s buit on Strong Line backer play can stop it, but not us. If I was the Giants I’d be looking at a massive DT and a few big backers in the draft or in FA.

    •  Valid says:

      Well we already have a couple of massive DTs in Canty and Joseph, but I agree that we could really use a big LB.

      •  demo3356 says:

        actually we dont. Neither one is a massive space eater type that can control the interior of an offensive line. Canty is very Slim for a DT and gets by more on Athleticism than bulk. Joseph while heavier is still more of a penetrater than a space eater. I’m Talking a Vince Wolfock, Williams bros in Minny type

    •  kinsho says:

      Thanks for reminding me, I need to watch that Skins-Steelers game from a couple weeks ago to find out how the Steelers were so effective in shutting down Griffin. I always suspected our linebacking corps just aren’t athletic/physical enough to play teams known for pounding the ball and utilizing the option.

  2.  demo3356 says:

    The Giants should also start thinking about playing a 5 man front with the ends out wide next time they see RG3. That would keep RG 3 from breaking around the outside for huge chunks. I think LAndfill, Canty and Tuck in the Middle with Kiwi and JPP (2 most athletic guys) on the ends would really stop a lot of what they like to do and force him to beat you through the air. Look for teams to start doing this at some point.

  3.  Levito says:


    demo3356 says:
    December 6, 2012 at 10:46 AM
    17 pts dude.. Had we not had penalties on EVERY single trip inside their 30 and on EVERY single kick or punt return we win by 2 TD’s. We shot ourselves in the foot all night with penalties and with lack of discipline on defense. Lost contain nearly 10 times. Everyone knows that the key to stopping option offenses are discipline and gap integrity. We had neither and gave up huge chunks

    Levito says:
    December 6, 2012 at 10:49 AM
    Butterfly effect. Had the Giants actually scored some real points, who knows what Washington’s offense would have done. They could have scored more points on the last drive, they just chose to get a couple of first downs (easily) and ended the game. You can’t just assume that if the offense scores more points, the defense would have held them to 17.

    •  demo3356 says:

      Had the Giants put up 21-24 pts in the first half they would have had to throw more and thats where they are much less effective. Seems like the giants would fly up and down the field only to get a stupid penalty every time they got inside the Skins 25.. Making these 1st and 10′s or 2nd and 3′s into 3rd and 15′s really kills your odds of scoring 7. We also lost some first downs in the 2nd half on penalties.

      •  Levito says:

        Excuses. Had the Redskins not fumbled away the ball in the 2nd half, they go up by 7. Giants cut it to 4 with a FG and Washington scored a TD on their next possession to get up by 11. What happens then? Redskins run, run, run and the Giants defense does nothing to stop them.

        Both teams squandered opportunities. To assume that if the Giants were the only team not to, they’d have won, is unrealistic.

        •  demo3356 says:

          LMFAO!!! Not sure what we are debating here and not sure you are either.. I said I am sick of how they crowned him the greatest thing ever after putting up 17 pts and you apparently believe he should be crowned after it?? OK, I’m not making excuses. We got beat. they played their best, nearly flawless football and we did not. They played like it was their Superbowl and their biggest game in ten years we did not. We killed drive after drive with stupid holding or false starts and still had the ball with 4 mins left down one.
          I’ve spent the last 2 threads giving the Skins Coaches credit for awesome game plans and getting all they can out of what they have, but I guess you are right, RG3 should be crowned after his 17 point explosion and for destroying the world champs!!!

          •  Levito says:

            The win was a lot more solid than a 1 point win would indicate. The Giants owned TOP in that game (as, apparently was their plan), but the Redskins still managed to run for 200+ yards. Defensively, they held a team which had 40+ minutes of possession to 16 points. Were penalties a part of it? Yes. But some of those penalties (i.e. the holding penalty on the last Giants drive) were the result of the Redskins defender beating his guy, straight up.

            Do the Redskins deserve some credit? Absolutely. But it’s not like Haslett is a genius. His defense (missing players or not), gave up 31 points to Dallas and 21 to Carolina recently. 4th worst defense (in terms of yards) in the league and bottom 10 in scoring. But they held the Giants to 16 points. To me, that says a LOT more about Gilbride’s ineptitude than it says anything positive about Haslett.

            •  kinsho says:

              Actually, Gilbride’s main plan of dominating the time of possession worked out spectacularly. We just weren’t able to produce many points from all that extra time.

              And Haslett needs to be commended here, if just for this game. Even with one of the worst secondaries in the league, his strategy was good enough to limit our scoring. He’s had Eli’s number now for two years.

              •  Levito says:

                Those are two counterproductive arguments. Did the offense shot itself in the foot with penalties, or did the Redskins defense have their number?

                •  kinsho says:

                  Nah, you’re confusing my arguments with demo’s. IMO, the penalties hurt, but they weren’t the main reason we blew the game. The Redskins defense just outplayed us in key moments.

  4.  demo3356 says:

    I spent a lot of time talking about Jim Haslett leading up to this game and I’ve seen a lot of Gillbride bashing since the game but not much Kudos for Haslett. I thought Gillbride had a great game plan (big part of it was keeping RG3 off the field). I think as a group we spend too much time bashing our guys instead of giving credit where credit is due. HAslett has no shot of stopping our offense with the talent he has on defense (possibly the least talented group in NFL ATM) especially missing Orakpo, Carriker and Merriweather. All he could do was come up with as much smoke and mirrors as possible and try making Eli as uncomfortable as possible and hope that we shoot ourselves in the foot just enough that their offense could do just enough to win and that what happened. For the most part Eli and Co went through his defense like a warm knife through butter, but he did just enough to create enough confusion and pressure to keep the game close. With what he had to work with that is very impressive.

  5.  demo3356 says:

    I never had been a fan of Shanahan in the past thinking he milked Elway to 2 titles and then has been a failure since, but what he has done this season is also very impressive. I’ve never seen a coach cater more to the strengths of his best player than he has this year. He has put a system in that gets everything he can from both RG3 and Morris. If they make the playoffs he should get coach of the year

    •  GOAT56 says:


      I don’t think it’s as much of milking Elway is that he only proved he could be a elite coach with one group of players. Without Elway or TD he’s been just an average coach.

      However with the talent the redskins have playoffs means runner up for coach of the year. Sorry but Arians form Indy if they get to the playoffs has to be the coach of the year. I think they have even less talent than the redskins around their rookie QB. And replacing the headcoach in season too.

  6.  demo3356 says:

    BTW- Defense has been pretty soft all year. Complacency is one of the bad things about winning 2 titles in 5 years. Its hard to have the same hunger and fire that teams that havent won do. I look for a big over haul of the roster after this season. High paid vets that arent producing are going to go bye bye and be replaced with younger hungrier guys or some vets that are hungry for their first taste of the Lombardi. I’d be shocked if we don’t shed 3-4 out of Osi, Tuck, Bradshaw, Diehl, Webster, Snee, Boley..
    The NFL has adjusted to how they play us.. No more 5-7 step drops.. Everything is 3 step drops, quick hitters, Play action and much more running the ball against are smallish front 7. Seems like Tuck and JPP particularly are frustrated and pouting about it.

    •  JimStoll says:

      couple of thoughts

      1. I agree Haslett did a marvelous job against our offense in the 2d half
      I think we only had one decent drive that led to 3 points
      in the first half we dominated between the 20′s but time and again couldn’t finish
      the question is why? why is Haslett able to confuse Eli with what everyone characterizes as limited personnel?
      why can’t we finish drives inside the 20? it is not like this is the first time. we’ve been like this more often than not for 5 years

      2. in the second half it looked to me like the skins defense was getting increasingly more pressure off the edges. what people call stupid holding penalties, I call will Beatty getting beat like a drum. not sure how Washington was able to turn it around so abruptly, but they must have seen something in the first half that they could exploit

      3. DEMO, you may hate the RG slurping; but if they beat the Ravens Sunday, you better turn off your TV. and since that is their last tough game on paper, a W for them Sunday could well mean 10-6 and the Division title

      4. I agree that it looks like a serious roster turn-over this year. Of the guys you mentioned I would think Osi and Diehl are the most likely casualties. I thought Bradshaw until Brown’s injury and the surprisingly slow development of Wilson. Snee can’t go; he’s Tom’s son-in-law. Tuck has another year on his contract. And Bolely is our best LB. Webster however could be toast and now that it looks like KP may be forever injured, who knows his fate. I would think both Hixon and Barden are possibly gone next year as well

      •  Valid says:

        I have a feeling the Redskins are in for a big letdown this weekend. They are coming off their biggest win in YEARS against a division rival. Don’t overlook the possibility of them coming into this week against Baltimore and simply laying an egg.

    •  Grateful Giants says:

      Demo, agreed on all you’ve said.

      The offenses inability to score really hinders the defense. Holding ANY team to under 20 points is a huge accomplishment for a defense. I think we certainly gave up big plays but man, you hold a professional offense to 17 points, while your offense holds on every play is not really all that bad.

      That being said, is it just me, or is it absolutely ridiculous that our D-line got 0 holding calls all game? Really sir, not one holding call on an offense that runs an option against three very very solid d-ends? Really? not 1 holding call? but our o-line gets called once a series?

      Is it just me, am I the only one that sees our defenders being held every play?

      Haslett has gameplanned extremely well, and Shannahans JV option BS has killed us. Congrats to their team, welcome to the NFL redskins , its been an awesome 15years without you.

  7.  Krow says:

    We’re a finesse team on both sides of the ball. That’s not a knock, just an observation. We’re effective, but we’re not a scary, physical, knock-you-on-your-a$$ kind of team.

    Rolle and JPP seem to think we’ve gone too far in that direction, and I tend to agree. Sometimes it’s a dogfight, and we’re not a nasty dog.

    Also … This looks to me like a transition point. What we’ve been doing has brought us 2 championships. But that formula seems to have been figured out. We can still crush traditional offenses (looking at you Packers and Patriots). But in a real sense we’ve battered the NFL into a sea change with our pass rush. Now we typically see primitive one-read option schemes … quick drops … and lots of deception … we’ve only got ourselves (and two Lombardis) to blame.

    •  JimStoll says:

      too bad Gilbride can’t adjust to what we’ve taught the rest of the league

      •  Krow says:

        It’s the way of things. Move and counter-move. But it’s put us in a bind. Our team is built to rush the passer … and throw deep. If the pass rush is negated by scheme … and the deep ball is countered by 2-deep zones … then we’ve got to adjust.

        There are obvious things we can do. Screens … power running … disciplined DL and LB play … etc etc. But we’re not built that way, and changing is not something that happens overnight.

  8.  GOAT56 says:

    Welcome back Demo! I went to the game and I was trying to explain how big that game was to the redskins and their fans. But people I don’t think realize just how big in really was to DC. I don’t think saying it was almost like their SB is an overstatement. People in DC are walking around like they won the NFC championship.

  9.  GOAT56 says:

    I don’t think we need to adjust the players we draft for the redskin offense. We slowed them down enough to win the game. Plus this offense is not long term. The zone option won’t be ran as a base offense by them for too much longer. Honestly I don’t know why teams don’t just blitz off the edge and hit RG3 every play. If they are running the option he’s fair game even without the ball, at least for a step or two.

    •  Begiant says:

      LOL the only reason the redskins did not score more was because our offense had the ball so much.

      •  GOAT56 says:

        That’s normally the way things work unless you are running the Orergon offense. It’s not like we had the ball for 40 minutes, we had the ball for 33 minutes.

    •  Krow says:

      The NFL is slow to adjust. But I’m sick and tired of the RG3 suckfest too. He runs a one-read run-option college offense that will eventually get him killed. The Redskins defense is the real story. If they shore up their pathetic secondary they could be one of the tops in the league.

      But it’s not just Washington. Teams are doing all sorts of things to counter the edge pass rush. The winds of change are blowing …

  10.  fanfor55years says:

    Hey, I’m as piggish about wins and titles as the next guy (now that we have a great quarterback who can get them), but let’s keep some perspective here. Two rings in five years is pretty damned fabulous. Two rings the way we got them should be enough to carry everyone on this site the rest of their lives since they will always remember how long the odds were against us in 2007 and 2011. Those were seasons that will rank in New York sports history with the two championship seasons of the Knicks (back when every team had four stars on the floor and the Knicks won because of a combination of character and team ball), the 1927 Yankees, the 1955 Dodgers, the 1996 Yankees, the 1968 Jets, the 1969 Mets, the 1954 Giants (the baseball version), the 1941 Yankees, the 1978 Yankees, the 1986 New York Football Giants, and the 1993-4 Rangers.

    That’s two of the greatest seasons for a New York team in close to a century of play, perhaps a total of about 500 or so seasons. And every one of us experienced them. This version of the Giants owes us NOTHING. Keep that in mind.

    So if there needs to be some turnover of the roster (there’s ALWAYS at least 20-25% anyway, so that will be nothing new), if there needs to be much more disciplined play the remainder of this season to have a real chance at a ring, if some of the players have to play better than they have so far, just remember, we’d all love to see that, all hope to see that, but it won’t happen every season and while we would be insane not to desire it we would also be greedy to expect it will happen three times in six seasons. It might, but we all ought to enjoy the rise anyway, knowing we can live off the pleasure of those two very recent seasons and that this team will stay competitive now and in the next few seasons, which gives them “a chance”, which is all we should and can hope to get from them.

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