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New York Giants General Manger Jerry Reese is known for playing things close to the salary cap and at the rough midway point of the 2012 season we see no exception: only six NFL teams have less cap space than the Giants $2.2 million. The Jacksonville Jaguars lead the league with $20.1 million and the San Francisco 49ers bringing up the rear with a mere $579,000.
Hat tip to the boys at Profootballtalk.com, who present these NFLPA numbers (i.e. not the League's version) of the numbers just in case things start to rattle near todays 4 p.m. NFL trade deadline.
A new contract for Victor Cruz might change these numbers one way or another, but Reese usually leaves himself just enough room to sign whatever veteran players he needs to patch up injuries and it looks like he's done just that.
While many will point to the $2.2 million-figure and worry that the Giants will have a tough time resigning players this offseason, we say "chill out." There's a method to the close-to-the-cap madness and there's plenty of time in the offseason to scrutinize the cap.
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TonyMW says:
November 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM
So apparently Rolle has been cleared and is back on the practice field. I must say that a 3 safety set of Rolle, Phillips and an emerging Brown looks mighty good right about now.
Krow says:
November 1, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Beckum for New Orleans’ #1 in 2013.
fanfor55years says:
November 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM
+1
By the way, I’m in full agreement that based just on what we’ve seen (I have no idea what happens in practices), if I had to sacrifice a safety (by all means trade him if at all possible) it would be Sash, not Hill.
I don’t think there would be many takers for Tryon, but there might be some for Sash. I agree with Krow that if you’re going to cut someone (and assume he won’t go unsigned and wait for your call) you try to trade him. I just don’t see where the market is for most of those guys. Teams already in the toilet won’t sacrifice a draft choice just to get a teeny bit less lousy. Teams that are good will have rosters filled with better players than those we’d like to rid ourselves of at the moment.
And yes, I know Seattle desperately needs receivers. But they can find someone better than Barden out there. That isn’t a high hurdle to jump. I still do not understand what some of you see in him? That he could beat a rookie 5th round draft pick in a game where Eli had six seconds to get the ball to him so he could get behind the linebackers and in front of the safeties and corners? That he made one good catch against the Eagles while being in good part responsible for losing the game? THis guy ain’t no Plax. He ain’t no Harold Carmichael. Yeah, yeah, I know all about being patient and how it takes time for some to become good. But you cannot coach up acceleration off the line of scrimmage and quickness coming out of breaks. You have that or you don’t. That’s why I wouldn’t give up on Jernigan. But I have, long ago, given up on Barden. Hope I’m wrong but really do not think so.
If a safety is gone, it HAS to be Sash over Hill. We pretty much know what we have in Sash, but Will “The Thrill” Hill (his nickname down here in the Gainesville area) possesses skills that may translate to starter if we’re unable to retain Phillips. I like what Sash offers on ST, but I feel that decision (if it comes to that) is a no brainer.
As for Barden, I have to side w/ FF55 on this one. While I think he could be somewhat productive, he’s just not that good. Yeah he had a pretty good game against Carolina but I think that’s the exception rather than the rule. The fact is, all he has going for him is height. That’s it. Make no mistake, I’m not saying we can’t use him or we get rid of him. I just don’t think we’ll be missing when he’s not re-signed.
All we will miss is his name on the injury report. Barden had his 15 minutes in the Carolina game. Next.
I’m not going to talk about Osi until 4 o’clock and I won’t belabor the point any further, but if someone called (they won’t) and said I’ll give you a 1st and 3rd for Osi, he’s cleaning his locker. He’s not getting franchised in a million years, and will walk after the season. I can definitely live with Adrian Tracy as my 3rd DE, or Kiwi or Ojomo, or whomever. It wouldn’t be shocking to see a guy like Tracy come in and play as well or better than Osi has to this point. Don’t fall in love with what a guy has done or who he was. Hanging on to franchise legends too long is results in teams anchoring themselves to the past at the expense of their future.
I know this is all speculation at this point, but I’d make that deal in a heartbeat. Like you said, the odds of that are pretty bad. I may be in the minority, but I think a combo of Ojomo/Tracy/Kiwi exceeds what Osi has given us thus far. With that said, I love the guy and wouldn’t want to see if go. If anything but for sentimental reasons.
Okay, lets get realistic with these hypothetical offers because no one EVER would offer a 1 and 3.
If anything the highest offer in the realm of possibility that we would receive for osi is a 3 that could bump to a 2. Osi is a proven commodity, you know what he brings, you know what he gives you and you wait for THAT game and you wait until the playoffs when he turns it on. This team wants to win now, and Osi plain and simple is a world better than right now than tracy and ojomo, and you cannot afford to rely on playing kiwi there due to our injury situation at olb. Osi won’t get dealt for a 2nd rounder and personally, I doubt reese would even make that move for a 1. I’m not the bigggest fan of osi and I think we jettison from him at the end of the season, but his value right now is > a first rounder.
I’ll tell you what the moment that we are talking about ojomo and tracy actually pushing tuck for and osi for snaps and not just filling in when they are tired is the moment I’ll believe you when you say they are ready to take over osi’s role, until then you are looking at untapped possible potential which is simply not as valued on this team as known commodities (and it shouldn’t be). I’ll take osi over ojomo and tracy every game from here on out because I know there is a high probably (as his career has shown) that in 2-3 games he will dominate
Anyone crazy enough to make that offer will be told by Reese to stay on the phone until papers are exchanged so Jerry can make sure the guy doesn’t get close enough to his owner to be fired before the deal is official.
Just thinking about a depth chart of Phillips, Rolle, Brown and Hill at safety is a very good segue into looking at what our defensive secondary COULD become if suddenly Corey Webster remembers how to play football.
Prince Amukamara will not be perfect this season (no corner ever is) but he is coming on, fast. He’s big, strong, and fast. He isn’t playing instinctively enough yet but that is coming.
Jayron Hosley has had a few poor games, but has immense talent and is being force-fed game reps because of the injuries that will bear him in great stead as the season progresses and as next season rolls around. I am absolutely positive he is going to earn back that Swag nickname.
Webster? Who the hell knows at this point? He’s a complete mystery. But let’s remember he went from playing badly enough in 2007 to be benched to becoming one of the top corners in the league. He was five years younger, but this drop-off in play cannot be explained simply by aging. I suspect that he has been reluctant to play press cover when he had Stevie Brown (who has done great but has also missed some assignments) behind him and will play a lot more of it when he knows it’s KP back there. We’ll see. He clearly is NOT a great read-and-react zone guy, and never has been.
Had we had Thomas and Witherspoon this season I think we would have had the best defensive backfield in the NFL when everyone is healthy. As it is I believe we have the best group of safeties and some corners who need to collectively step up (in particular, Hosley, Coe and Webster).
I have to disagree with your assertion that he is trying to cover for Stevie Brown. I know two out of the three times he was beaten by Dez it was Antrel Rolle, not Brown, back there giving him help or that Brown was not playing over top. In addition Webster had the same problems before Brown began to get playing time.
Well, geez, if Brown doesn’t ever blow assignments and is a turnover machine, how was he ever cut so many times?!
I am not saying Brown is perfect, I am just saying don’t blame Brown’s blown assignments on Webster’s poor play
* I mean to say there is no correlation.
Speaking of the Prince, I don’t know whether anybody noticed during the Dallas game, but Troy Aikman was going on about how Jerry Reese had told Amukamara to play like a top draft pick, and how Prince wasn’t getting the message. When did Reese say that, August? You’d think that Fox could do better as an alleged news organization, after all. Or else, Troy got hit in the head once too often.
Surprising, given the overall quality of reporting going on in other areas of FOX.