Loading ...Lost in the elation of a New York Giants 26-3 victory over the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday afternoon was a record-setting moment for head coach Tom Coughlin. As the clock struck 00:00 in the fourth quarter, Coughlin was credited with his 78th win as coach of Big Blue, passing Bill Parcells for second on the franchise's all-times win list.
The win was also the 146th of Coughlin's long NFL career, passing Jeff Fisher for sole possession of 18th on the all-time wins list. And it's only three wins behind former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher.
Ironically, with seven more wins, Coughlin would tie former Giants head coach Steve Owen with 153 career victories. However, he has a long way to go to pass him on franchise's all-time list, as Owen recorded all 153 of his wins as head coach of the New York Football Giants.
Despite seemingly endless criticism during his tenure in New York, Coughlin has done nothing but win. In fact, his only losing season came in 2004 -his first with the team- when the Giants finished 6-10. Since then, he's had seven consecutive non-losing seasons which have included two Super Bowl championships.
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I have to admit that I’ve come full circle on him. Never a rabid Coughlin hater, I certainly had times where I thought we should go in a different direction. Two Superbowls later … I don’t think that any more.
+1
I always acknowledged that he was a very good coach, but still desired better. And I was particularly down on his loyalty to his assistants when it appeared they were stiffs (Gilbride at some points, most of the defensive coordinators TC hired, and Quinn all caught my ire at one point or another).
But I always acknowledged the value of continuity and it certainly appears now that not only is TC the best coach in the business (yeah, I know, Belichick, but when he has been beaten in both of the biggest games the two teams have played how can you rank him ahead of the guy who beat him?), but Gilbride and Quinn (certainly since the additions of Izzo and a lot of better athletes to the special teams, including a great punter) appear at the top of the rankings now too.
I’m still not sure about Fewell, but I know better than to think I know better than Tom Coughlin, even if I still question his decisions about the types of defensive coordinators he selects.
Anyway, while I don’t think I’ve been wrong about much regarding this team, I certainly was wrong to want Mara to dump Coughlin and bring in Harbaugh (yeah, that was my position, although I did lobby to bring Harbaugh in as offensive coordinator for a year or two so he could learn from TC and THEN succeed him). I can only attribute that position to temporary insanity.
FF55, I was right there with you after the 2010 season, dump TC and Bring in Harbough……in fact given JH success so far, he has proven to be a great coach. However we really cant complain much about TC given his success. Glad he is our coach even though somtimes I think wtf are they doing???
Me too, Krow. I was not a Coughlin fan early on and had many moments when
I thought it was time for a change. Guess he’s a keeper
But in our defense, he made some adjustments as well. He’s not the same Tom Coughlin who was originally hired. We’ve all matured.
does anyone make anything of Tuck’s post-game comments (and this is a response to whether Fewel is a very good coach) that for the SF game they jettisoned some things that were not working and went back to what they used to do.
Can’t tell if that is just nonsense interview-speak or whether it is reflective of Fewel philosophically “wanting” to run a certain type of defense, and then being forced to switch to something that better suits his players’ skill-sets
I feel like if it were 100% up to Fewell, he’d run a cover 2 all game. Someone probably spoke to Tom, who in-turn told Fewell that he better dial up the pressure.
Honestly, I hope that’s the case. If that’s all that was wrong with our defense and it’s now fixed, we’re in pretty good shape.
I suspect it’s a little more complicated than that though.
First, there’s some truth to the fact that Perry is a zone read & react guy, which isn’t the way the Giants have traditionally played nor is it what their personnel have been selected to excel at. He needs to know when asking guys to do things they aren’t comfortable with is counterproductive.
On the other hand, there may be some attitudes amongst the players that aren’t helping the situation (see Rolle & Tuck early last year). If you’re asked to do something, you have to do it as best you can, not give a half hearted effort and then blame the scheme for your troubles.
It’s important that both issues be corrected, because the truth is that we should be able to play both schemes depending on opponent and situation.
Here are four “core” beliefs I have expressed since the start of the 2007 pre-season:
1) Eli Manning is an elite quarterback and will be a great one before he’s done;
2) The Giants would build a “dynasty” (defined in the salary-cap era as a team that would win multiple Lombardi Trophies and would be in position to compete for them every year) within a few years (I was looking to 2008 at the time but they “arrived” early);
3) The Giants wide receiving corps would be among the best in the NFL (this was said when Nicks and Cruz were raw and most analysts and fans were hysterical about Reese not going hard after Edwards and Bolden when they became free agents); and
4) The Giants’ defense will be the best in the NFL and the best since the 2000 Ravens.
Each and every one of those opinions was both heavily disputed and controversial at the time I wrote it. I think by the end of this season all will be conventional wisdom.
I’ve offered plenty of other opinions, many of which have proved correct, a few which have been proved wrong (wrong about Coughlin, wrong about Gilbride, wrong about Quinn, wrong about Wilkerson).
That’s the setup for what comes next. I could live without a few of the rants that rlhjr keeps throwing at us, and I even find Demo’s fiction that he’s the only one who is always right about the Giants while everyone else is an ankle-grabber sometimes less amusing than at other times, but one of the things rlhjr wrote earlier today is worth repeating. Look at the IDEAS proposed here, and while the source should always be taken into consideration in assessing the likelihood that the idea is worthwhile, just because it is offered from left field or by someone you may not love does not make it wrong. Good life lesson.
And I’ll add to that. While the oft-repeated rlhjr rant that we are in need of a REAL middle linebacker may get tiresome, and may be pretty obvious to many, it’s absolutely correct. IF Reese & Co. can plug that hole and figure out how to keep all of the emerging defensive stars on this roster this will not be the best defense since the 2000 Ravens. It will become the best defense since the 1985 Bears, and that is the Gold Standard in NFL history. Could Herzlich be that guy? Maybe, but I have my doubts. But before I would give up on him as the one we need I’d remember that he is behind Chase Blackburn, the much-trusted quarterback of the defense and a guy who looks bad for 50% of any game but frequently makes big plays at big times. It’s not at all easy to beat a guy like that out, especially when he’s a great locker room guy whom the entire team and coaching staff love.
well, not sure about being the ’85 Bears or the 2000 Ravens; I don’t think this unit is even the ’86 or ’90 Giants.
But a real middle linebacker would be nice. Until then, I’d like to see rivers on the field and chase off.
But on the topic of LB’s, what do people think of the fact that Paysinger was seeing lots of snaps early; Williams saw a lot of time; Kiwi had his hand in the dirt a bit; Tracy played both DE and LB; JPP played quite a bit of DT.
It was really interesting to see all the personnel packages and position changes.
Our defensive backs are better than those on the Giants’ teams you mention (’86 and ’90) and the front four will probably be better too. We’ll never have another linebacking corps like those, but no one else has had an equal group in football history. There aren’t many more LTs being born. He was a complete freak of nature who comes along very rarely.
I loved seeing Paysinger get some snaps yesterday. I think that was a function of Rivers not being ready to go at 100% yet and Williams’ disappointing play this season, but Paysinger is a quality player who deserves a chance to make some plays. I loved seeing Kiwi up front more and think that will be a trend that lives because against many teams having combinations of linebackers that do not require Kiwi will give us the best matchups. And I thought Tracy did a heckuva job and way better than we ever saw from Tollefson in late-game-when-the-offensive-linemen-are-tiring duty. He and Ojomo are going to be terrific insurance against losing Osi.
Wait until Canty is right. The flexibility available to Fewell at that point is ridiculous.
I would love to see a breakdown of who played what position and for how many snaps. I mean Tracy was out there in the first series. I think Fewell showed he can be very creative to those (even myself to a lessor extent) that think he’s a one trick pony in calling defenses.
I loved yesterday’s game.
That is a classic case of the bully being punched in the mouth and reverting to it’s trueself, a coward.
The Niners defense completely gave up in the fourth quarter. Their offense was pathetic. Their coaching staff was laughable.
RE: RGIII
While I certainly don’t chalk up the Redskins as a simple “win” on the schedule anymore (especially after last year), I don’t think RGIII is going to cause the Giants as many problems as people think. After all, Big Blue dismantled Cam Newton and his boys a few weeks ago, and I think it’s fairly safe to say that the Panthers have more talent offensively than the ‘Skins do.
Having Rivers back is pretty huge for this game. Hopefully he’ll get some more snaps next week, because I think it was pretty clear yesterday that he was not at 100 percent yet; he barely saw the field.
This game is at home and it doesn’t have that “trap game” feel. I think the Giants know Washington could be a fairly tricky opponent now with Griffin, not to mention the fact that they do not want to start 0-3 in their division. They’ll be ready.
I don’t know how the Giants could ever consider this a trap. We have been losing the the Skins regularly in recent years.
No we haven’t been losing the the skins in recent years. We did get sweept by the Redskins last year but had beaten them 6 straight times prior. I think this would have the makings of a trap game but the reason Valid brings up helps. Plus the redskins by winning yesterday setup a situation that they are in first place if they beat us.
Not at all…
The Giants absolutely owned Washington up until last year. I believe they were 9-1 in the last 10 until opening day last season.
Okay, recent year. But getting swept by a division rival that is really bad should stick in your memory.
RGIII is faster and shiftier than Newton, though certainly not as big. And while Cam is trying hard to become a pocket passer and therefore running reluctantly except on that option play, RGIII is taking off when he sees green space if his first two reads aren’t open. Those are more “open field” plays and they require a lot of defensive discipline to confine him to a part of the field and have enough players available to cut him down. He’s a real antidote to a very good defense because you cannot predict what he’ll do on any given drop-back.
Don’t get me wrong. I expect the Giants to win, and the offense to have a great day. I just don’t think it will be anything close to a cakewalk.
This is why I think Rivers may end up being the key this weekend. His speed/athleticism on the outside could go a long way in containing Griffin and preventing him from getting out in the open field.
I do not think it will be a cakewalk, either. However, unless RGIII runs absolutely wild, I expect the Giants to win rather comfortably by pulling away in the second half.
Far from a cakewalk, but the single key to victory for me is containing Bob the 3rd and Alfred Morris. Shutting down the redskins run game early and taking a decent lead early will force the Skins to rely on the pass more, which plays right into our d-line’s strength.
I had doubts about receiving depth this year, primarily because I had doubts that Hixon would be playing at this point, much less producing. Every week someone has answered the call which has been nice. In the event that Nicks is 100% (he clearly was not yesterday) we will have some battle-tested depth at WR which will make this offense incredibly tough to stop.
I’m worried about Nicks. I just hope he can recover to full health. If playing prevents him from fully recovering, I rather he sit out until he’s healthy. Him playing yesterday was brave and gutsy. But in all honesty, he hurt the team more by playing if he’s not able to move. And it serves him better to get close to 100%.
The thing is, Nicks not at 100 percent is still better than 80-85 percent of the other receivers in the league, as evidenced by that incredible catch he made yesterday. His mere presence on the field makes everyone else’s job easier (so long as he’s not playing on one leg).
I don’t think that’s the argument. I rather have Nicks sit until being 100% rather than playing the rest of year banged up. Maybe he can play and get healthier each week. I sure hope that’s the case.
Yeah but it’s not like the Giants can afford to have him sit out in these next two divisional matchups.
TC has never been #1 on my hit parade of NFL coaches. But I am glad that he has passed Parcells as #2 on the All Time Giants Win List.
Frankly, the way Parcells bailed on the Giants after the 1990 Super Bowl win continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth. I know that rumors of a behind the scenes power struggle with GM George Young are frequently cited as the cause of his departure. But I continue to believe that Parcells looked at that Giants roster; saw an aging LT and an aging Simms; figured that the lemon had been pretty much squeezed dry; and concluded that staying on as head coach of the Giants would do little to burnish Bill Parcells’ burgeoning reputation as a football genius. So he boogied, and left this team holding the bag with Ray Freakin’ Ha–ley.
TC is obviously at a different point in his career trajectory right now than Parcells was in 1990. So it’s not a completely apples to apples comparison. Nevertheless, he is a man who appears very happy and comfortable in his role as head coach of the Giants. He is also a man who clearly appreciates how uncommonly lucky he is to have been blessed with a QB as transcendent as Eli Manning. For all of his shortcomings, he does seem to be the right coach for this team at this time. And he also seems to be one of a vanishing breed, an old school coach with more class in the tip of his pinky than the new-breed, low-life punks like Harbaugh and Schiano have in their entire bodies.
Well done, Mr. C.!
+1 good job norm. I couldnt agree more and I too am not a big fan of Parcells and the way he left.
It wasn’t that he left it was the timing. If he makes an earlier decision. Bellichek is our HC. But he waited so long that Bellicheck was already with the Browns and we had to settle for Handley.
TC isn’t someone that gets you excited as a being your HC but he knows how to lead men, especially in tough times. He’s already made himself a HOFer. But he could put himself on a different level was another SB. Especially, a SB that we win as favorites like we would have been in 2008.
Whoa, good to see people so amped following the beating we just administered.
The Giants did indeed take their game to the next level. We were not weak in even one area. Quarterback, running backs, wide receivers, OFFENSIVE LINE, fullback, DEFENSIVE LINE, linebackers, cornerbacks, safeties, punter, kick return, and special teams coverage all played very well.
I’ll say it again: we are the best damn team in this league when fully healthy. Outside of one Kenny Phillips, we may reach full health soon. And what better time to play well than at the start of a brutal 12-week stretch.
BTW, the correct nickname for the Washington QB is NOT “RGIII.”
It’s “Bob.”
Please keep that in mind when referring to him in any future posts.
I love Bob the Third lol…too funnny.
I refer to him as Bob Griffin. It’s odd how many people have no idea who you are talking about.