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Poor Eli Manning: NFL Regular Season Week 5

October 9th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
By Dan Benton

"Poor Eli Manning” is a compilation of quotes by both the media and fans about New York Giants quarterback and Super Bowl XLII & XLVI MVP Eli Manning.

Despite his success, negativity and doubt have followed Peyton’s younger brother since the moment he was traded from the San Diego Chargers to the New York Giants on draft day of 2004. Regardless of what he does or how well he performs – even in a league that lives and dies by the motto, “What have you done for me lately?” – he is questioned and criticized.

In Sunday's 41-27 victory over the Cleveland Browns, Manning was downright dominating. He rallied his team from a 14-0 deficit, and was routinely making some of the most accurate passes of his career. He ended the game completing 25 of 37 passes (67.6%) for 259 yards, three touchdowns and one interception.

What's that? There's an interception in the box score? He sailed a pass or two? Yikes. You know by now that's all it takes for the critics to come out and play. And play they did.

Brad Gagnon, Bleacher Report

"[This] marks the third straight week that Manning wasn't the top-producing Giant, and it's the second time in three weeks where the difference on offense came on the ground, not in the air."

Brad Allis, Wildcat Sports Report

"Eli Manning throws high frequently."

Joe Lodgers, Giants 101 Facebook

"Eli sucks …I'd still rather have Peyton."

Travis Fredborg, Twitter

"Eli Manning looks like one of those kids that goes to Disneyland with make a wish foundation"

D Alissandratos, Twitter

"I feel like Eli manning purposely sucks [expletive] in the first part of games so he can say he got a comeback."

Brett Mott, Twitter

"Imagine if Forrest Gump and Rainman had a kid, that's Eli Manning."

mdc1, Big Blue Interactive

"[More] balls up for grabs from Eli. Will he ever learn?"

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32 Responses to “Poor Eli Manning: NFL Regular Season Week 5”

  1.  fanfor55years says:

    Wow, these are really starting to be “reaches”. Can’t even manage to get one moronic professional commentator to take the bait? The universe of those guys is so huge you would think at least ONE of them would give Dan material each and every week. Has it come to this? Idiot bloggers who clearly haven’t a clue? I liked it better when we could all laugh at the fools who write for ESPN or other variations on Bloviation Central.

  2.  CaryYankee says:

    Eli does through high at times. “frequently” can be debated though. He also throws that back shoulder-timing throw better than probably anyone in the league. And no one makes a decent receiver look like a pro-bowler more than Eli does. (That’s why I think only one of Cruz or Nicks will get an extension but that’s for another day)

    Its nice to see that you can’t get reputable sports analysts (or even wannabes from ESPN) to get quotes for this.

  3.  GOAT56 says:

    I think our injury situation isn’t nearly as bad as it seems. I think we are being careful with players like Hosley and Rivers to hopefully have them around for the long run. I think if the OL wasn’t playing well Diehl would have found a way to play Sunday. Prince was given time to recover. I think we are utilizing the depth of the roster to survive the first half of the year in order to be healthy for the streetch run.

    That being said Benard, Rivers and Hosley are the main players I’m looking to get back. I just have a feeling Nicks won’t play. I think if it’s a playoff type game he could but there’s no need to risk this one game for his long term health. Benard is needed because we have to stop the SF run. Kuhn and austin are at best question makes vs the run. Rivers is another athletic Lb that can help vs the SF RBs, FBs and TEs. Hosley would give the depth at CB that could allow us to use a CB on Davis.

  4.  drewsg1 says:

    I really wouldn’t put stock in what Brag Gagnon puts out there. He’s a known Cowboy homer/troll that ranked Tony Romo ahead of Eli Manning and Dez Bryant ahead of Hakeem Nicks. Just because he writes for a website doesn’t mean his opinion is worth anymore than anyone else.

  5.  GOAT56 says:

    “Eli Manning throws high frequently.”

    I do think this was an issue of Eli in 2010. I think he’s corrected that in the past 2 years.

    •  jfunk says:

      Disagree. He threw at least half a dozen too high last week alone. People just don’t take notice of it when nothing bad happens.

      •  GOAT56 says:

        I should have said high and over the middle. I’m not saying he never does it anymore but he threw a lot more high and over the middle in 2010.

  6.  GOAT56 says:

    The most important thing we might have to do to win versus SF is to tackle well. I know McCoy is one of the best, Richardson is very talented and Murray is a good back. But I think we made all three look better with bad tackling. Luckily for us Gore at this stage isn’t a wiggle RB but we still need to keep those yards after contact to a minumum. We will struggle vs any offense if they are getting 5-7 yards on every first down like what happen way too often against Cleveland.

  7.  jfunk says:

    I think Blackburn stays at least until the rest of the defense appears to settle down a bit. I think (hope) that Canty’s return will really make a huge difference. Even though some of us never believed a word Jerry said about the guy on his way out the door in Dallas, perhaps we also became accustomed to his presence and were somewhat guilty of looking over him to count all of our DE’s sacks.

    IF our dominant d-line returns and the secondary gets healthy, leading to the defense looking more and more solid, perhaps then Perry takes a look at Herzlich in the middle. Right now, I think he’s just relying on Blackburn to be the glue while all the parts around him are changing weekly.

    As far as Eli is concerned, he does throw high. Frequently. Always has and I suspect he always will since it hasn’t been corrected to this point. He’s still the best IMO and I wouldn’t trade him for anybody, but it’s 100% accurate to say his throws are high way too often. A lot of them get caught, but his receivers have to work a lot harder than they should for a lot of those. Sometimes they even take brutal hits unnecessarily because of them. He’s great, but this is a legitimate criticism of a consistent problem.

    And I agree with those saying Sanchez has regressed (and yes it’s the Jets’ fault). He looked much better to the eye IMO his first two years. He was making a lot of mistakes, but he just looked like he had “it” to me. Now, his confidence is shot. When he does have a guy open deep, he butchers the throw. It happens a lot as was mentioned. I think David Carr could have been an excellent QB if things weren’t so terribly bad for him during his tenure in Houston.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      There are two explanations of high throws:

      1) The QB is not able to get his weight fully shifted to his front foot so is less able to get the ball “down” and the receiver framed; or

      2) The QB is throwing into very tight spaces and knows his receiver has a height advantage over a defender and can go up and get a ball that is about an arm’s length or less above his head.

      I think both are explanations that fit Eli. Some of those “high throws” are intentional, some not. But watching all of his games over the years should convince anyone that he has worked hard on accuracy and now compares well with the other top quarterbacks and is WAY better than all of them in accuracy on three specific throws: the deep ball, the long sideline pattern, and the back-shoulder throw.

      Where Eli sometimes has trouble is short passes (he seems not to have the hang of making the softer throws as well) and seam throws that go inside the hash marks by more than a few yards or passes toward the middle of the field (albeit on rare occasions….he is usually deadly on those).

      Anyway, we cannot expect perfection. He is, IMO, the best out there, and I’ll accept a few bad passes in exchange for all he does on the field and off it.

      •  Krow says:

        High throws to the sidelines are almost impossible to intercept. Only the WR has a shot at them.

        •  kujo says:

          Unless they’re Barden, in which case the ball could have been intercepted and you have to commit aggravated assault in order to prevent it.

  8.  TuckThis says:

    Eli himself is aware of high throws. He discussed its with Francesa on Monday. Eli brought it up and said he’s been watching film and he’s trying to correct it those mistakes.

  9.  norm says:

    Sandusky sentenced to 30-60 years.

    •  kujo says:

      Hope they send him into general population. There may not be honor among thieves, but the incarcerated have a way of dealing with sexual predators who victimize young children.

    •  norm says:

      Although I doubt he makes it through two years of that sentence before he winds up with his throat slit in the shower.

  10.  TuckThis says:

    So man typos above……sorry! But you get the point.

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