Loading ..."Poor Eli Manning” is a compilation of quotes by both the media and fans about New York Giants quarterback and Super Bowl XLII & XLVI MVP Eli Manning.
Despite his success, negativity and doubt have followed Peyton’s younger brother since the moment he was traded from the San Diego Chargers to the New York Giants on draft day of 2004. Regardless of what he does or how well he performs – even in a league that lives and dies by the motto, “What have you done for me lately?” – he is questioned and criticized.
In Sunday's 19-17 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, Manning completed 24 of his 42 passes (57.1%) for 309 yards, two touchdowns and an interception. He led his team back down the field twice in the fourth quarter, once for a touchdown and once setting up a potential game-winning field goal. Unfortunately, a poor decision led to an offensive pass interference call, pushing the field back to 54-yards. Kicker Lawrence Tynes would come up short and the Giants would lose the game.
Had Tynes' kick gone through the uprights, Manning would once again be heralded as a 4th quarter magician and hero. Alas, that's not what happens, so his mistakes -including a brutal redzone interception- were compounded. Finally, his haters had some fuel to their fire … but somewhat surprisingly, they went relatively easy on him this week.
Harvey Araton, New York Times
"Manning should have known better than to put the ball up the way he did to an inexperienced receiver against a shutdown defender … Had Mark Sanchez engineered this kind of endgame for the Jets, Fireman Ed wouldn’t be capable of dousing the inferno of ire."
Steve Politi, The Star-Ledger
"[Manning] kept warning everyone that something always can go wrong in those late-comeback situations. What a bummer of a way to prove to the world that you were right."
Darin Gantt, NBC Sports
"He’s Eli Manning, so it might be quibbling, but there is a tendency to make red zone mistakes that require his brilliant knack for saving himself."
Allen Barra, The Village Voice
"Face it, Giants fans, Vick outplayed Eli Manning."
CJ Hirschy, Twitter
"Mark Sanchez is better than Eli and Romo combined."
David Davalos, Twitter
"Romo had 5 interceptions, watch out Eli manning. There's a new [expletive] QB giving you a run for your money."
Krissy, Giants 101 Facebook
"Eli is a [kitty cat]."
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“I’d take Mark Sanchez over Eli Manning any day.”
Wow, I did not think there was anyone left who actually believe this.
Quick; somebody call the US Fish and Wildlife Service. This guy may be the last of his kind and should be placed on the Endangered Species List before it’s too late.
I’m sure that those tweets are from twits. Move along.
Actually the Politi quote is 100% accurate. Having to come back in the 4th quarter all the time can be a recipe for disaster. And the Araton quote made me laugh!
Eh, idiots on Twitter except for a few fairly moderate criticisms.
By the way, Eli has been consistent in saying that he and Gilbride will NOT change the way they go because a starter is out. He will make the throw and expect the “next guy up” to make the play. Araton’s comment seems reasonable until you remember the above, and that the coaches could have practiced that play with Cruz or Hixon split out to the right so it wasn’t the worst receiver the Giants have who was the target on that play. Plenty of blame to pass around, but it cracks me up that people are saying “to an inexperienced receiver” when Barden has been in the league three years.
Someone will have to explain to me how it’s Eli’s fault that Barden first allowed himself to be pushed outside when he should have seen the ball was going to be falling about 2-3 yards in from the sideline, then allowed Asomugha inside position without ever even having to fight for it, then ran out of control instead of stopping and making a leap that would have used his significant height advantage to compete for the catch, and ALSO practically beheaded Asomugha trying to pull him away when he had JUST done the exact same thing and somehow got away with the defender getting the flag on what he had to know was an abominable call by the zebras that would be made up for if they had half-a-chance to do so.
I know there are apologists for Barden all over the place around here. Sorry, they’re dead wrong. And I’m no apologist for Eli. His interception was horrible, and all his fault. And he had bad communication with Hixon on two plays where Hixon went outside while Eli threw inside. He also gave Wilson a pretty poor shovel pass. It certainly wasn’t his best game. So there were things to critique. But that last pass isn’t one of them.
“He’s Eli Manning, so it might be quibbling, but there is a tendency to make red zone mistakes that require his brilliant knack for saving himself.”
“Face it, Giants fans, Vick outplayed Eli Manning.”
I think these quotes are actually true.
i was gonna post the same thing bout those quotes.
They are true.
fanfor55years says:
October 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM
The Giants’ approach to the offensive line is actually pretty clear. I’m somewhat surprised more teams don’t copy it.
First, get a GREAT position coach (and contrary to what kujo may think, Pat Flaherty is universally acknowledged as one of the best position coaches in the NFL, and has been for many years, AND has proved his merit by turning a bunch of no-names into a great O-line once for the Giants and is in the process of trying to do it again).
Second, when you get a shot at a quality lineman whom your scouts are VERY high on and don’t have to trade up in the draft to get him, take him and smile all the way to the bank. Obviously, Will Beatty and Chris Snee fit this description and were both thought to be “steals” when the Giants drafted them at least a round below where their talent placed them on most teams’ boards.
Third, avoid first round picks on offensive linemen unless you wind up with a top 10 pick somehow (a trade is obviously the preferred route rather than where you finished the season prior) and your scouts are dead sure he’s worth the huge investment. I am surmising this because they obviously have not been in that position and might, in fact, take a pass even if they were to get there in favor of another player who could give them a greater impact or is more “projectable” to the NFL (O-lineman are notoriously difficult to project because they simply do not see many great athletes across from them in college and you don’t have a lot of tape you can really use and have to really depend on scouts surmising from what they’ve seen what that player might become).
Fourth, grab free agents for critical needs when necessary and grab them very early in free agency. Don’t worry about overpaying a bit. You’re getting them because you’re in need and see no way you can solve your need through the players you have drafted previously because none rose up to “take” the position. This fits Kareem McKenzie and David Baas.
Fifth, keep drafting and signing from among UDFAs good “value” picks who don’t require large investments, have shown your scouts some promise because of some special assets, get them in Flaherty’s hands, and see who survives. Play a numbers game. many are called, few are chosen. There may be seasons where you don’t have anyone ready to, or capable of, stepping into a “need” on that line. When that’s the case you have to bite the bullet and go to #4, above. But your hope is that you create a good pipeline that gives you quality starters and plenty of depth.
That’s the Giants’ Way, and I think it’s the right way in a salary cap era where spending a lot of money on a guy who isn’t a star (but has to be paid as if he is) really, really, hurts you.
I could not not agree more if I’d authored it myself.
Glad that you took some time out from your evangelical flaying of Barden to write it.
Well done.
The last sentance makes me think of Doug Free for the Cowboys. They are paying him 8 mil this year. Imagine if they were paying him what he was worth and they invested that money in their interior OL.
When was it that I said that Pat Flaherty wasn’t a universally-recognized high quality football coach?
Steve Politi makes a very valid point, and one that I’ve made here myself. The comeback victories are exciting, make great headlines, and build legends, but they are not something that a team should live on as a steady diet. If counting on fourth quarter heroics is the default, then sooner or later you are going to have a really rough time as a team.
ding. ding. ding. we have a winner. That was exactly my point above.
Well … it has a certain truthiness to it. One could say we won a Superbowl due to Eli engineering miraculous comebacks. And now … 2-2 and hurting from a comeback that didn’t happen.
But it’s the easiest bet in the world to predict a team won’t win the Superbowl. New Orleans and Green Bay didn’t repeat, and they certainly didn’t survive on close games and comebacks.
Failure is the fate of 31 teams every year.
Which is why repeatedly putting yourself in a position that stacks the odds is not a good long term strategy. Talent can overcome a lot, but when you put yourself in delicate situations where things like, say, I don’t know, offensive pass interference for example, can quickly tip the scales, talent may not be enough. This team is good enough to be ahead in these games, thereby negating the need to make a comeback at all. The Philadelphia game is just another example.
There’s one thing you have to say for the Giants management … they stick to their plans. And this is a characteristic of most successful teams. The ones who give in to constant change seldom produce a winner.
like the other team that shares a stadium
i dont wanna be the one to spill the beans on this but….
Word is that Nicks will be IR’d and require surgery.
Hope that source is wrong, But the source is coming from a very accurate place as well as person.
Did your source indicate whether it would be temporary or season ending IR?
didn’t mention what his situation will be about being IR’d.
It came from someone who is a PA at the HSS.
FWIW, I speculated as much yesterday:
norm says:
October 1, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Any news on Nicks’ knee? Is he expected to play next week?
Maybe I’m being overly paranoid here but I find the lack of news on that front disturbing. Kind of reminds of me of the Tuck situation last year in which, week after week, we’d hear guarded comments on how his neck was “improving” only to find out come game day that it was not.
I’m aware that NFL teams are typically not forthcoming on such matters. But I’m getting a real bad vibe about this one for some reason. In fact, I’d hardly be shocked if we were to see Nicks placed on temporary IR as the roster move made to clear space for Sash’s return.
we can only hope that it’s not season ending.
Bye bye 2012. That’s one of the few killer blows we won’t be able to rally from.
It seems that way now if this is true. However, I would have thought the same thing about Osi going to IR in 2008. And some thought that about TT going to IR last year. Everyone has to step up. We have invested in WR to have enough talent to still be a very good offense.
If … BIG IF … if it’s a minor meniscus tear … then we’re talking 4 weeks and a full recovery. Anything more … well …
i didn’t wanna say it, but I’m hearing it’s that’s what the injury is….
Again, no extent to the knee or the exact Injury has been told to me… Except that it will likely require surgery and he’ll miss sometime.
But if it turns out to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the leg, then this team is well and truly f–ked.
booya!
As I posted yesterday a long term Nicks injury means we need Randle. I think Barden is solid and good enough to be the #3 behind Nicks and Cruz. But if Cruz and Hixon are our top 3 we need a more dynamic threat at 3rd WR. Barden is fine for now as we try to get Randle some snaps but Randle and even Jernigan will be need much more than it looked yesterday.
Bring up David Douglas, waive Jerkagain.
; )
I honestly don’t know why im hating on Jerkagain so much, but I feel like I despise him the way FF55 talks about Barden!
I’ll curb these thoughts on Jerkagain for now. Hopefully he proves me wrong.
For that to happen, the trainers better start spiking Randle’s Gatorade with 5-Hour Energy just prior to team meetings