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As the New York Giants returned to practice following a three day layoff, neither running back Ahmad Bradshaw or tackle David Diehl were on the field with the team. However, head coach Tom Coughlin feels Diehl is recovering nicely from the sprained MCL he suffered in week two against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and hopes to have him back as early as this week.
"I hope we can see some progress and maybe have him this week," Coughlin said.
Depending on the degree of the MCL sprain, recovery could take anywhere form three weeks to eight weeks. For a grade one sprain, most athletes are able to return to the field in week three. For Diehl, a return on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles would mean a return after only two weeks, so perhaps Coughlin is being uncharacteristically optimistic. Or perhaps Diehl's sprain was of the most minor variety.
The news on Bradshaw, who suffered a sprain neck during the same week two games, wasn't quite as optimistic. Although Coughlin did say he was improving a bit, the issues he's facing go beyond pain tolerance.
"There are still issues. If it was just pain, he’d be going, " Coughlin said. "I hope [he'll be cleared soon]."
Bradshaw was sent to the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York on Monday morning and, apparently, had gotten a better diagnosis than the one Coughlin was referring to, however.
"Great news! Thanks everyone for ur thoughts and prayers. But u dont understand, I'm Ready to rock," he tweeted.
Word on safety Antrel Rolle (knee) and wide receiver Hakeem Nicks (foot) was much more positive. Coughlin said Nicks suffered no setbacks and would be expected to practice on Thursday, while he feels Rolle will return on Wednesday.
"He wasn’t supposed to go today. He was to be treated and then Wednesday would be his day," he said of Rolle.
In addition to all of that, Coughlin announced that wide receiver Domenik Hixon had passed his post-concussion exams and will also be returning to practice on Wednesday.
All things considered, the Giants' injury news isn't too bad. A lot of players will be practicing this week and if everything falls into place, they may sport a full roster against the Iggles on Sunday night.
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Diehl should take the next 13 games off.
uh no…e is actually a pretty valuable player on this team. Solid backup that can play all OL but C. We need him back for depth purposes. Without him we are VERY thin especially at Tackle.
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GOAT56 says:
September 24, 2012 at 3:11 PM
I would like to see Bradshaw sit a few more weeks. I like what I see out of Brown and I want to see more Wilson and even Scott. Scott looked good in his garbage time carries last game.
That being said the starter does matter that much as a RB. The carries can be adjusted in game considering to flow of the game and effectiveness. So even if Bradshaw starts Brown can get signifacant carries.
They key injury in terms of starting line ups IMO is Diehl. What will TC do especially if Diehl is ready by the Philly game? If Diehl was out longer and the OL played well it’s easy to disregard Diehl but after just 2 games? I remember we brought Ohara back a few years ago when the configuration with Seubert at center was playing well. My hope is that if Diehl can play he does what he did to Beatty week 1. That’s make Diehl active but don’t start him just because he’s “getting back to game shape” or whatever reason. That gives you another week to see with this current OL configuration can do vs a top DL. Unfortunately if Diehl is ready I can see him back to starting at RT. While TC likes his vets I can’t see Beatty being moved from starting LT. I think we all want to see Lockear stay in there at RT, I just don’t know if he earned enough faith to continue playing for a healthy Diehl.
I know with me Prince hasn’t flashed as much as I have expected thus far but he also hasn’t played much. He was thought to be a top 10 pick last year so the kid is clearly talented. Last game is the first game that got me truly excited because he was out there for 47 snaps and the few times I saw him he was making positive plays.
Prince is huge for us because he has upper tier #1 CB ability. He’s much like Webster in my opinion but just good deal better athlete thus a higher upside. I feel like while Webster is good there are sometimes a WR is just going to run by him because he lacks elite speed. Prince while not Peterson fast has very good speed and can run with just about any WR.
I also think Prince has been hurt by Hosley who just looks like a natural. I think both of them are very talented. Last game was the first they played together and I think it’s no accident our coverage was much better. I think these kids should really help against Philly because they can run with the Philly WRs. When we had Webster and TT starting I just don’t think we were fast enough to keep up with the Philly WRs. Now we are for the most part.
I swear to Christ, if Diehl gets his starting job back, I’m going to die of liver cancer.
Don’t start drinking yet. Sounds like he won’t be able to go on Sunday, and a good game by Beatty and Locklear against the Eagles, who have good outside rushers, could put them in the driver’s seat no matter how much Tom may love Diehl.
But the sooner he can get healthy the better. Three offensive tackles are an order of magnitude better than only two.
AMEN, no Deihl and we are super thin at T for the rest of the year. I hope he comes back but not as the starter
As for Bradshaw, I wouldn’t count on him for Sunday no matter what he says after his exam. And you know what? He has seen his future flash before him. It looks a lot like Brandon Jacobs’ recent past. We will get a lot better Bradshaw back than we had earlier. He’s seeing that a back who plays his blocks right, who then accelerates through the gap BEFORE looking for gaps in the next level of the defense, and who just runs hard and makes things happen is succeeding where he didn’t. He’ll be reminded of that in the film room. He’ll be thinking that he suddenly looks VERY expendable. He knows Wilson is coming, and that Brown appears to have arrived. He knows that if he cannot prove his value over the next few games he may be reduced to clean up duty and be on the chopping block as soon as the season is over.
I suspect we’ll see the very best of what Bradshaw has left when he gets his snaps going forward. I love brown, and want him getting the majority of snaps. But I’m not writing off AB yet either. He’ll have a great chance to contribute over the course of the season. This team has already proved that three backs can not only coexist, but thrive.
Long time lurker here, but I’m not too sure about this. Bradshaw is the veteran back that knows the offense of the Giants well. And compared to the other backs, nobody’s better at protecting Eli in the pocket.
Then again, though, I’m of the opinion that Bradshaw has already lost his starter position. He’ll split carries with Andre Brown once he returns, but if he can’t match Brown’s production, Brown will take over the backfield come bye week. Pass protection is vital, but a legit rushing offense that can set play-action tactics in motion is so much more valuable.
I dont care how many nubies pile on with their “I’m not afraid of Philly or Philly is over rated” garbage.. I’m less comfortable playing them than I am anyone anywhere with the exception of New Orleans in that friggan Dome.. Philly has found more ways to break our heart than the other 31 teams combined.. I’m pretty sure of the 15 worst losses in my life, like 8-9 are to Philly.. I’d rather play the Packers or 49ers on the road than an 0-10 Philly team. Like I said, they are dirty chippy late hitting cheap shot fckers that always seem to get the best of us.. Even with stiffs like Vince Young and Jeff Garcia running the show. I think we can and should win Sunday night, but many folks on here are going to be surprised at what a battle it will be. They could go 2-14 this year and their 2 best games of the year will be the 2 vs us.
It always seems as though a big part of those losses, at least in the past few seasons, has been complacency. Complacency let the Eagles come back from a billion point deficit at the half and give DJax an opportunity to score, and complacency against a VY led traveling circus gave up the ghost last year. But hopefully for this match up we have as much at stake as they do and won’t show up with five minutes to go in the fourth wondering where the other 55 went, or worse (for me at least) Disappearing in the second half.
I’m with you but without Payton I’d take NO in the dome this year. But the simple fact is we lost 7 out of 8 over a time frame when we have been a really good team. That alone should make anyone worry of Philly.
Also I think they are overrated is way different than they can’t beat us if we don’t beat ourselves. I do think they are overrated a touch from a talent standpoint. But so what because they definitely are good enough to beat us.
I think the key is the line play. We have had trouble with their DL which has caused us problems over the past 4 years. Our DL has to continue to make Vick uncomfortable.
Also, DJax has killed us. Prince and Hosley should help us defend DJax better. If we just don’t allow any big Djax plays we should be fine. But that’s harder done than said.
I fear the same damn thing too…..unfortunately, we won’t be facing the same Eagles that bent over for the Cardinals yesterday.
The Eagles and Andy Reid always go out of their ways to derail our season. It’s one of the few things they’ve been consistent at over the years. We’ll also be playing in Philadelphia, in front of some of the filthiest fans in sports history. God help us.
Amen. Some people just haven’t yet grasped the fact that we now live in an age of football parity, and the old cliche of “any given Sunday” is actually true now. All of the teams in the NFL while not equally talented are at least close enough that they really can show up and beat any other team. If you’ve ever played sports even on a recreational level you know that it really doesn’t take much to separate a dominant performance from a lackluster one. All of the little things add up, and the smallest things can throw a player off their “A” game. In closing anyone who thinks that we will roll in and dominate Philly, well that could happen, but if you’d be willing to lay down money on it you are a much braver man than I.
I would like to clarify that I never said I was not afraid of this eagles game but simply said that if we can execute a scheme very similar to the one we just used against the panthers as effectively as we just did, then we will beat them. I very much get that parity is the name of the league and any given sunday, and I have watched our giants be inconsistent and systematically dismantled by teams with far less talent after a dominating performance the week before. However, for every reason to be a downer their is a reason to be confident next sunday night. So I apologize for being too cautiously optimistic for you. I don’t think what i said I was at all outlandish or crazy ie. we execute our gameplan; in short stop run and try and keep vick between hashes and pressure up the middle of the pocket. Then the eagles will very much be fighting an uphill battle to keep up with the offense, because having watched every game of theirs their oline looks just a little better than the bears oline, so I feel good about our dline doing their job. Yeah, any given sunday a team can lose, does that mean i can never feel like if we execute we will win? Also, I don’t think ANYONE has said we are going to dominate Philly. Finally, I think you should hold off on calling people “nubies” and writing off their opinions, I have been lurking on this site since the days of Frank and mvn and I have watched some of you “veteran” posters spout off some downright idiotic and outlandish things at times so let’s not act like just because you have been commenting on here, that makes your opinion anymore valid. RANT OVER now (thank you dan benton for creating this awesome site by the way)
Yeah. This.
A lot of people here mistake being confident in a win for going into Philly and dominating. Go look at ANY of the posts in the previous updates. Not ONE person has said anything about the Giants dominating the Eagles. What has been said is that the G-Men are the better team and that they SHOULD win this game comfortably (and when I said comfortably I mean by 10 points or so).
THIS.
Also, let us be fair here, because I noticed in a previous post someone said to have confidence in a giants victory is completely unfounded. To have confidence in the giants chances against the eagles in this game coming up is not completely unfounded.I will base this off 5 things purely with the giants (so I don’t hear the “yeah but the eagles were embarrassed and are gonna be fired up argument”). 1. The performance this year against the run (which has not been completely atrocious and has improved steadily). 2. Our Secondary being now healthy 3. our defensive line playing far far more disciplined than they did against the cowboys for 2 weeks in a row now (this directly impacts 1) 4. beatty’s return and the offensive line playing much better 5. The fact that they have found the way to run the ball (they don’t need 100 yards a game but only need to be able to run effectively enough to make play action work) :BONUS: 6. TGEM
So Philly isn’t INCREDIBLY overrated then?
It’s like people tend to forget that the Giants went into their house and beat them handily last season.
I don’t care what anyone says; what happened between these two teams over the last decade has absolutely NO BEARING on what happens on Sunday. Different teams, different scenarios, different seasons.
The Giants are the better team. That’s it.
AGREED Valid.
Also, people like to bring up the past games between the two teams but we optimists need to throw away the past 3 performances by the eagles?
Exactly Willy.
Again, I know we have a very sketchy past with Philly, but I think people are letting that past cloud their judgment about things. I mean, we JUST beat them in their house almost exactly a year ago and looked pretty damn good in doing so, and we are coming off a Super Bowl title while they missed the playoffs entirely.
Demo, you are a GREAT poster and I think along the same wavelength as you most of the time, but saying that you’d fear the Eagles on the road, or an 0-10 Eagles team as you say, more than you’d fear San Fran or Green Bay is downright silly. Those two teams went 13-3 and 15-1 last year, respectively, for a reason just like the Eagles missed the playoffs for a reason.
I hear Philly just signed Flipper Anderson.
I dont know what it is about the Eagles..They are a complete Joke of a franchise having one a grand total of ZERO SB’s in their entire existence. Yet somehow they seem to always find the way to get over on the Giants, particularly of late. I was thinking about it today and I can only remember the Giants ever beating the Eagles 3 times in “Really big games”. I remember them beating them
1) In the wildcard rd in 81
2) In the Divisionl Rd in 2000
3) last game of season in 02 to make playoffs. Shockey over Dawkins in end zone
Yet from Pisarchick to Randell Cunningham bouncing off Carl Banks to the list I posted earlier they have stuck it to us regularly. I Hate the Fcking Eagles!
THIS.
oh, and I agree with you about Deihl and the needed depth at Tackle. Just dont want him starting.
I went to #2 and #3. Anyone want me to go to the season finale?
fanfor55years says:
September 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM
I would characterize myself as “cautiously confident” about the game Sunday night. No one can know which team will be out there, in either color uniform. Again, it’s a week-to-week league. Before everyone starts counting the Eagles out just remember what you thought about the Giants with about 25 minutes of football to play just a little over a week ago. Things can change in a hurry early in a season.
We still need to contain Vick and protect Eli, and we need to again run the football. Are you all SO sure this can be done? I’m CAUTIOUSLY optimistic. I think we may well have the best team in the NFL, but only when we have established our identity and worked out the kinks this season. We’re weeks away from that. And the game is less than a week away. Interesting.
You said it all.
+1000000000000000
There’s been some truly silly comments here today.
1. Valid pointed this out, thank [insert god here]. There is absolutely no rational, logical or intelligent reason for a Gaints fan to say you wish Philly won yesterday. In fact, as all those seemingly pumping the brakes will tell you, “the Eagles have the Giants number in recent years” – ostensibly they don’t need the motivation of the fear of going 2-2 to get up for the Giants. Your divisional opponent losing is always a great thing, always (except in end of season playoff scenarios).
2. We. There is no we. We’re all fans. They, the New York Giants, with the leadership of From Fired to Saint to Fired to Hall of Fame Saint Coughlin, are responsible for whether or not they overlook Philly. Odds are they won’t. We, fans of the Giants, can act in any rational or irrational way we want about the game, and need no caution to take a particular matchup with a certain level of seriousness. And it’s not like anyone is saying “Bring on the Browns!”
+1
although i do type “we” I don’t say it when I am debating in person; it is just much faster to type than “the giants” or even they when I am sneaking a post in at work
does anyone know where to find the hurrys hits sacks stattisics for quarterbacks? I am really curious who has more cumulatively this year Vick or Cutler
Hurrys are bullshat … to a large extent so are hits. Only sacks are definitive. They rest is drunk talk.
Are you kidding me? I will address this later my fridge broke I need to get some food
Don’t know how you can say hits are bullshat, Krow. Hits can completely rattle a QB or knock him out of the game. I don’t think we have to look any further than Vick to see evidence of that.
Diehl is a solid, versatile journeyman OLman. We’re better off with him than without him. The problem is that he’s getting starter salary … $4 million plus. And while that’s fine in 2012 it will need a restructuring next year or he’s gone.
P.S. … don’t forget to add Kevin Boothe and Will Beatty to the “Free Agents in 2013 That Reese Has To Pull a Contract Out of His A$$ For”. Good luck to him.