News Archives

David Wilson Slowly Climbing Out of Dog House & More from Afternoon Tea with Tom Coughlin

September 12th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
By Dan Benton

New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin took the podium on Wednesday with nothing but smiles and rosy cheeks as he addressed the media during the first of his annual mid-week press conferences of 2012. Actually, no … we kid. In last place in the NFC East at 0-1, coach Coughlin wasn't an overly happy man, but was anxious to look ahead to Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

“None of us have slept well. I hope the whole room is full of people that didn’t sleep well. That’s the point," Coughlin said.

Like Justin Tuck, rookie running back David Wilson is another of many players (and coaches) having suffered from some recently sleepless nights. But will he get another opportunity this Sunday after coughing up a bad fumble last Wednesday night? In other words, if he out of the Coughlin dog house?

“Well, he’s a little out of the doghouse,” Coughlin said. "He’s anxious to do right."

Then, of course, there are the injuries. Oh, the injuries. The Giants' pre-practice injury report read more like their depth chart, but safety Kenny Phillips, linebacker Michael Boley and left tackle Will Beatty were noticeably absent from it. The full list below:

Prince Amukamara (ankle), Marvin Austin (back), David Baas (hip), James Brewer (back), Michael Coe (hammy), Hakeem Nicks (foot), Adewale Ojomo (hammy), Keith Rivers (hammy) and Da'Rel Scott (knee).

Coughlin noted that the Baas injury is a "nagging" issue, while Rivers, Amukamara and Austin would be limited today. Also, at the start of practice, Nicks was not doing individual drills and was spotted riding the stationary bike.

But back to Beatty not being listed on the pre-practice injury report…

“He will continue to progress the way we’ve been bringing him along with the number of snaps he gets,” Coughlin said, “and again trying to make up for all the lost time.”

The coach, however, would not indicate whether or not Beatty would start this Sunday – something the left tackle has already said he's ready to do.

Finally, Coughlin said he's spent some time watching Rutgers fill recently so that he can get a feel for Greg Schiano and his system.

"We watched all the Rutgers film in all three phases, of course we watched all the preseason games,'' Coughlin said. "They continue to have a good scheme.''

Photo Credit: Mike Gannon


Tags: David Baas, David Wilson, Football, Hakeem Nicks, Keith Rivers, Kenny Phillips, Marvin Austin, Michael Boley, New York, New York Giants, NFL, Prince Amukamara, Tom Coughlin, Will Beatty

11 Responses to “David Wilson Slowly Climbing Out of Dog House & More from Afternoon Tea with Tom Coughlin”

  1.  GOAT56 says:


    fanfor55years says:
    September 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
    So Tyron Smith horse-collars Boley to prevent a touchdown and pays a modest fine (that Jerry Jones will find a way to cover) and Gilbride follows with a questionable play call and Bradshaw with a very questionable decision to take a run outside and the zebras with a refusal to call interference when Cruz is clearly held in the end zone. The Giants lose four points and the game might have been changed by the loss.

    Like I said the day after the game, they need to change the rules so there’s a MUCH bigger penalty for doing this kind of thing when a touchdown is prevented.

    BigBlueGiant says:
    September 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM
    as we discussed in previous thread.

    The NBA changed the rule because too many players got injured during “clear path” fouls.

    NFL should do the same.

    GOAT56 says:
    September 12, 2012 at 12:10 PM
    The issue is that play doesn’t really happen all that often. You can’t give anyone a TD. Really the only thing that could be done is to place the ball first and goal at the 1 yard line. That’s basically what we got. You are suppose to score a TD there and that’s on our offense.

    The offical rule might make sense is if a ball carrier (including KR, PR, Int ret, fum ret, etc.) is tackled while the defender commits a personal foul with a clear path to the endzone (ref judgement) the ball is awarded first and goal and the 1 yard line like PI in the endzone. This rule would help push safety because horse colars seem to occur when defenders are trying to save a TD.

    •  BigBlueGiant says:

      LOL. Goat, was just about to repost this.

      Here’s the thing. Because it doesn’t happen so often, is why the penalty should be more severe than others. The NBA got this rule right ( one of the few that they have).

      Do I think the team should be awarded with a TD, no. BUT the player who commits the fould should be ejected and a FG try should be awarded from the 15. THEN the team who attempts the FG should be awarded the ball.

      It’s really a dirty play. As I stated, If Goddell is really concerned about the players safety, then he should look into this.

      •  jfunk says:

        I’m not sure that getting a 32 yard FG attempt and the ball back at the 50 is a more desirable outcome than getting 1st & goal at the 1.

      •  GOAT56 says:

        I think the 1 yard line is very fair. Eject them? I wouldn’t argue that but it’s football, players hold to save their QBs from getting hurt. You don’t want to change the essence of football with quirky rules. My suggestion merely makes players think about committing such a tackle father out. I’m not sure other than ejection there’s anything you can do about an illegal tackle inside the 5 yard line. It’s like committing PI inside the 5. I guess the ejection part coupled with my proposal would alleviated those type as tackles as much as they can be alleviated.

  2.  TuckThis says:

    How do you get out of the doghouse if you can’t play? How do you improve by not playing? Whatevah!

    •  GOAT56 says:

      Practice. I think what TC is saying is he will get a chance to redeem himself if he continues to practice well. He’s still likely on a short leash but I think he will get some snaps early vs TB and will get more or less based on his play.

    •  jfunk says:

      By carrying the ball properly each and every time you touch it, every day.

  3.  kinsho says:

    IIRC, Schiano’s the type of guy that loves the ground-and-pound and it showed in their first game. You take away the run game from the Bucs and force Josh Freeman to throw. As long as our secondary gets it act together to cover the likes of Vincent Jackson and whatever other receivers they throw at us, we should prevent them from scoring any more than two touchdowns.

    Lord help us on the offensive side of the ball, though. If they continue playing the run like they did against the Panthers, our run game is dead on arrival unless Bradshaw and the offensive line kick it up a notch.

  4.  jfunk says:


    jfunk says:
    September 12, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Cruz already almost lost his opportunity in college. Faced with that reality, he refocused himself on the job and made it happen.

    After that effort took him all the way to the top last year, he lapsed into the temptation to be lazy and unfocused, convinced that he’d already “paid his dues” and would now automatically be successful.

    He’s just been smacked upside the head by reality again. Hopefully, this will be the last time he needs to be taught that lesson.

    JimStoll says:
    September 12, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    I think it is more accurate to say that he simply had a bad day

    Jim – I’d have been inclined to agree with you if it weren’t for the fact that Cruz himself acknowledged the problem:

    “I was just thinking that the game was going to come to me naturally and I probably didn’t have to, you know, work as hard,”

    Quite frankly, this is a better answer than any other. To admit it was just a lack of focus and that he will redouble his efforts means it’s an easily corrected problem and he’s aware of it. If he had said “I don’t know why it happened…I’ve been working as hard as I can but I just couldn’t catch the ball for some reason”, I’d be more worried about it.

  5.  GIANTT says:

    On the Boley horse collar – The argument seems to be that – who knows if he would have scored if he hadnt been tackled ? Why is the onus on Boley in this case ? Prove to me that he WOULDNT have scored and I will accept the penalty as it is now but why shouldnt there be a penalty TD if , in the opinion of the ref the player with the ball would have had an unimpeded path to the goal which I think Boley did . In this case , anything less than a penalty TD makes it very obvious that there will always be someone who will be willing to take a lesser penalty .Look he probably would have done it anyway no matter what the penalty since there is always the chance that it doesnt get called but at least the ball carrier doesnt get penalized for something he DIDNT do

  6.  fanfor55years says:

    They will NOT just grant a touchdown to someone. For all anyone knows he would have tripped, dropped the ball, and lost possession. But there SHOULD be more than a half-the-distance to the goal line and a $10,000-$15,000 fine.

    Again, I propose that the ball be placed at the one-yard line (only if the officials call it “unimpeded to the end zone”) and the offense be given FIVE downs instead of four. That’s four shots at the end zone from one-yard out. I don’t know what the stats are but I’ll bet teams score 95% of the time in those circumstances without the extra down. It would approach 100% with that extra play. It’s a fair penalty and while it makes the offense earn the 7 points instead of having an official hand it to them, it would make it nearly certain that they’d get it unless a defense makes a once-in-a-blue-moon stand, which would be pretty exciting. The offending player should be thrown out of the game and fined at least $50,000.

    I suspect the above would end plays like what we saw once teams saw the real consequences of their actions.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Login with: