Loading ...On the next-to-last play of practice on Thursday, safety Tyler Sash and tight end Bear Pascoe got into it pretty good, and eventually had to be pulled apart by their teammates, including rookie defensive tackle Markus Kuhn. Afterwards, New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin, understandably upset, expressed his displeasure in the situation.
"I didn’t like it," Coughlin said. "It wasn’t necessary. It was actually after the play was over … I don’t want to see anybody get hurt. I’ve had too many experiences where somebody does something stupid and then can’t play."
This wasn't the first fight of camp, as wide receiver Brandon Collins and cornerback Brandon Bing also got into a scrum while the team was in Albany, but it was certainly the worst. At one point, Sash -known to his teammates as "Sashsquach"- tackled Pascoe, but was immediately flipped over onto the ground himself. The two proceeded to engage in a wrestling match before coaches and teammates intervened.
It's something that would have made former offensive lineman Rich Seubert quite proud -then again, he probably would have been involved somehow- but it's not something that's ever going to be okay with the boss. And given the rash of injuries already plaguing Big Blue, the team can ill afford to shoot themselves in the proverbial foot over a temporary burst of testosterone and adrenaline.
Alas, this is life in the NFL. You can only hit your friends and teammates so many times before you start getting extremely aggressive. Luckily for the Giants, they'll have the opportunity to unleash some of that aggression on the cross-town rival New York Jets this Saturday.
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The day i was at camp i watched hixon and prince get into a little scrap where they each punched each other in the face masks before being separated.
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Our tackle concerns could just save you on the Bennett bet, but hey, he still quickly made three grabs in his first action last week despite Locklear starting at LT so don’t get too confident yet.
But if things get so bad that Bennett winds up being one of our starting tackles, I think I get a mulligan. :-P
What’s funny is with his build, athleticism and blocking skills if he puts on 30 pounds (assuming he’s 280 right now) he could be a high level LT.
For tomorrow here’s what I’m looking at:
1) Our DTs I assume Joseph and Benard start so mainly our 2nd and 3rd teams which should include Hendricks, Kuhn and Thomas. I also hope Hendricks or Kuhn gets a few first team snaps since I doubt Benard needs many snaps.
2) Our OL. How Lockear plays at starting LT and the first team OL continues to improve run blocking. Brewer hopeful will get a few snaps with the first team at LT. The 2nd and 3rd team units need show they can have a professional output. The young guys need to show the first game was more jitteres and the really aren’t as raw as it seemed.
3) Our RBs. While it would be nice to see some plays from Wilson and Ware to real intrigue is Brown and Scott. I want these 2 to preform like they perform on the roster. Scott needs to show other talents beyond speed such as pass blocking, pass catching and ability as a natural runner.
4) The Punt Return game. Hosley has a chance if he just can catch the ball cleanly every time and show the same return skills he flashed last week. Jernigan is almost done as a PR. If he catches the ball the rest of preseason maybe he gets a chance. This Scott kid we signed seems like aKR but at 5’9″ 180 he seems to fit into a PR as well.
5) Prince and Hosley at CB. These two need to prove they can handle the 2nd and 3rd CB positions. I hope we give Hosley a shot with the first team and not Rolle. We know what Rolle can do. Let’s use the preseason to see if Hosley, Tryon or someone else can do a better job.
6) Hixon. His practice reports are surprisingly great. It appear that he’s not just the placeholder at 3rd WR, he’s actually beating out the young guys for the role. Two ACLs makes me think Hixon could be fools gold. But one thing I do recall that make explain the difference in Hixon compare to TT in their recoveries is that I believe Hixon’s last ACL tear was partial. Hixon health is vitial because not only will he likely start the year as our 3rd WR but as it stands now our PR as well.
7) Herzlich and the rest of the young LBers continued improvement. Let’s see if he can continue to push Blackburn for starting MLB. We also should get of first look at Muasau, he still could push he way on to the roster. Though the injuries at other positions makes keeping 8 LBs less and less likely.
Good post.
Jake Muasau has to hope for the practice squad, which could get pretty crowded. They cannot afford to carry 8 linebackers so he isn’t making the roster unless they suffer some injuries. He has to show pretty well to even get stashed on that practice squad because they have plenty of players they’d like to hold on to who won’t make the roster. Truthfully, I’m quite concerned that Muasau and Kuhn will get poached.
Kuhn is a draft pick so I’m more concerned about him. Muasau has to do something in the games to really stand out to get poached.
I wonder if Thomas shows well if Rocky in trouble? Joseph is a lock as are Canty and Austin. Thomas is all but assured a spot. Then you also have Hendricks and Kuhn. So basically to keep Benard we have to keep 6 DTs (not impossible) or cut both Hendricks and Kuhn (seems unlikely).
I think the only way Rocky would be in trouble is if Hendricks and Kuhn are extremely impressive. I have a feeling Thomas will be hard to cut because he’s got terrific size and would help the run defense a ton — where as Bernard is more of a penetrating DT who doesn’t get as much of a pass rush anymore, and I don’t think he offers as much against the run as Thomas does. I really hope Kuhn and Hendricks impress, though.
I think in order to get poached from the PS 2 things have to happen. 1) the other team needs to add the player to their active 53 roster, and 2) I believe, but am not 100% positive that the Giants would have the first option to match the offer before the player is poached.
So for instance if in week 4 someone wanted to grab Kuhn off our PS, and lets say at this point the Giants have gotten word that Canty really can’t be ready until say week 10, JR would have the option to IR Canty and then activate Kuhn in order to retain him. I believe this is how it works.
They will not IR Canty, even if it takes him 10 weeks to return (which it won’t). If someone wants Kuhn on their roster they will probably be able to get him. The Giants cannot afford to protect him. With Joseph, Canty, Austin, Thomas and Hendricks all apparently ahead of him they have too many to protect even if they let Rocky go (which they are highly unlikely to do when he’s probably teamed with Joseph as their September 5 starters).
Coughlin’s a badass. They say that coaches need to inspire players to run through walls for them. When a 66 year old man tears his hamstring after being pummeled on the sidelines by a huge athlete from another team, and refuses medical treatment because the team is in a playoff push, there’s just no way that doesn’t become the stuff of legend. Vets fall in love with the guy, while rookies and young guys worship the dude. It’s enough that he’s rebuilt this team into a successful program that puts out quality football and quality football players, but this sort of event can’t be manufactured. It’s that intangible “it” thing that the best coaches have. Respect flows and typically success follows. Indeed, it’s time to “build the bridge” between that success last year and the need to continue it going forward. Maybe some jerkoff on the Jetswill help us out by running into Coughlin again tomorrow night! A guy can dream.
If I’m hearing you correctly, Tom Coughlin lives and does the things that Rex Ryan talks about.
Except for jogging.
That fat f*ck couldn’t run a bath much less the several mile routine Coughlin runs each morning. I don’t care HOW much Rex has lost–lap bands are to genuine weight loss what bumpers are to rolling a 300 point game in bowling.
Let those jerks go after Tom and not dive at our players’ legs.
I am caught between absolutely hating this game and wanting to get past it ASAP without any injuries, and being anxious to see what our depth players have and who looks likely to make the roster at the positions where there is fierce competition. I’d love it if because they’re trying to get their multiple offenses right the Jets leave their starters in and our #2′s and #3′s get a chance to go against real players.
I’m definitely concerned with the injuries as always, but especially over the next two games. I really wish we played the Jets last. I’m not subscribing to any conspiracy theories without some kind of evidence. But I still don’t trust the coach or whatever is in the Ryan DNA that makes them tick.
I wish we didn’t play the Jets at all. It’s just too risky for a preseason game. It’s bad enough with a normal game, with players playing for a job, but it’s even worse with the Jets because Rex Ryan wants to “humiliate” us. He wants to be the king of NY and won’t let anything stand in his way — even if it means overdoing it in a preseason game which leaves players injured. I understand that players are fighting for their lives, but there’s a difference with the intensity level that Rex seems to love. I’m just not a fan of the risk that comes with playing the Jets in preseason.
Ramses Barden ?@RamsesNYG
Damn. This part of the year can be so tough. Gonna miss my homie. He aint done playing in this league though. #DontCountHimOut
Nice sentiment, Ramses, but you may want to worry about yourself or you could be competing with your homie soon for a position at the loading dock.
So the defending Super Bowl Champions are playing a team that didn’t make the playoffs last season and all anyone on the drive-time sports talk shows seems to want to talk about is the Jets.
John Mara must be grinding his teeth.
Thankfully, this is almost certainly the last time the Giants will see the Jets this season except at certain common hangouts in the metropolis. If I never hear another local sportscaster talking about them it will be too soon.
This is “Jets Superbowl” … it’s just a pre-season game to us. So naturally the Jets get a lot of press. It’s the high point of their season. Their entire year revolves around winning this meaningless scrimmage.
The Jets are the most talked about team on ESPN. I don’t understand why. Because of Tebow? Wake me when he’s actually accomplished something aside from a play in overtime of a playoff game. Maybe if he had gotten them to the Super Bowl/won then I’d buy the hype, but as of now Tebow really hasn’t done anything. His numbers are nothing to write home about and he’ll never be in the 2nd group of QBs, the “great, but not elite” ones. And that’s if he even gets a chance to be a QB anymore since the Jets have such high hopes for him as a “Wildcat” guy. That play never works. So basically the Jets are being so hyped up because of Tebow, the most famous punt protection guy in the history of the NFL…
I’d rather play a team that actually has the talent and did well last year. I personally think it would have been really neat if the Giants would have played the Broncos in preseason.
It’s like life … if you don’t have the goods then you need to work the image. The Jets are losers, so this is what’s left to them. Like Dallas … I mean ‘Americas Team’. All sizzle … no steak.
If “humiliating” the Giants means beating up on our scrubs en route to a victory in the second preseason game, then sign me up. Who gives a flying f*ck?! I’m not running scared of an average team that wants to be chippy. They don’t have the talent to keep up with us. We’ll give our guys their reps, and that will be that. The Jets want to run Tebow time over our practice squad players and future grocers? Let ‘em!
Rex wants to dominate — even if it means hurting players in the process. It’s a meaningless game, but Rex is going to go at it, balls to the wall, and try to make us look like chumps. I just don’t want anyone getting hurt in a game that doesn’t matter because Rex has a penchant for overdoing things.
I agree with Kujo on this. The Jets arent’t the only team that want ls to beat us and be physical with us. It’s football. I also think fans here underestimate how tired we are hearing all this ish abou the Jets. I expect our first team to be fired up. I understand the concerns more when we play each other in the 3rd preseason game because starters play longer. I don’t see why playing a Jets team trying to prove itsself is any different than playing a Jags team trying to prove itsself.