Loading ...With two Super Bowl victories over the span of five years (four NFL seasons), many have begun to wonder aloud if the New York Giants are, or soon will be, a dynasty. That very same question was posed to quarterback Eli Manning on Wednesday morning during an interview with NFL AM, and his answer was, very simply, no.
“No. No, we are not,” Manning said. “We had a little break and the two years prior to last year we didn’t make the playoffs. We have work to do. [We] have good players on this team. We have potential to be a playoff team and make a run once we get into the playoffs. It’s a matter of going out there and proving that, and everybody playing to their level of play.”
And therein lies the difference between Manning and Michael Vick, who believes the Philadelphia Eagles are poised to begin a dynasty of their own despite having won nothing. Manning is always looking forward, always looking to improve and never allows himself or his team to become egotistical. Vick, meanwhile, lauds himself and a team that has accomplished absolutely nothing.
Manning's persona has begun to rub off on his teammates as well. Asked about Vick's comments and Jerry Jones' proclamation that the Dallas Cowboys will "beat the Giants' ass" on Wednesday, no one in the locker-room cared to give a response. Justin Tuck summed it up for everyone by saying "talk is cheap; play the game."
Should Big Blue win another Super Bowl championship this season, something we at Giants 101 feel they are poised to do, this question should be revisited a year from now and should also include a very different answer. However, that's another debate for another day.
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in my opinion, to be a dynasty you need to win at least 3 championships within a relatively tight time frame, and you must be in the conference championship game in the years you don’t win the supe
Eli has it right. despite winning super bowls following the 2007 and 2011 seasons, the three years in between were anything but dyansty-esque.
I would submit the giants would have to repeat this year and win another between 2014 and 2016 with conference appearances in the other 2 non-winning years to be considered a dynasty
I think everyone even us diehards here understand we need one more to be a dynasty. But if we win this year I think we are clearly a dynasty. I know we missed the playoff twice but one year was 10-6. And another year we didn’t win the SB we were 12-4. We only had one bad year in 2009 when we were 8-8.
disagree completely
we were horrible, horrible, horrible in 2009
our best regular season since 1990 was 2008 and we got bounced in the divisional round
we were a disgusting 10-6 in 2010 after the epic collapse against the Eagles and the equally epic no-show the following week against GB
and in both ’07 and ’11 we were barely able to sneak into the playoffs prior to the subsequent magical runs
that is why I continually challenge all the revisionist history about how great a coach Coughlin is
we are generally speaking a mediocre .500 team despite the wealth of talent on the roster beginning with quarterback.
give me a 12-4 regualr season this year with a super bowl, followed by 12-4+ next year and the year after and back-to-back conference championship appearances, followed by yet another super win, and I’ll bring out the dynasty tag
until then, we are nothing more than .500 team with a touch of magic
I should have said almost everyone. In 2009 we were 8-8. In 2010 we were 10-6 and a blown 21 point lead with 8 minutes left from being the 2nd seed. It’s not revisionist history but I admit you have always stated your side. But plenty of others like myself have always stated my side.
I do think we have had unfortuate injury luck overall and more difficult schedules. But the fact is we still won 2 SBs. And a 3rd in this era when the talent is so equal qualifies as a dynasty. No one is saying we are the same as SF or Dallas in their dynasty’s but in the era of the NFL we would be a dynasty.
Fire Coughlin!
Too soon?
We’re a talented team … with a big game QB … and stable management.
This allows us to ‘get on a roll’ in the playoffs. We’re a lot like Pittsburgh, and they’re not a dynasty.
agreed
I was probably a little harsh above, but unless you are consistently winning your division with great regular seasons and then making it to the doorstep and frequently into the supe with ultimate success, you are not a dynasty
No one said we are a dyansty no becasue we are not. The only point I and the piece is making is that if we win 3 SBs in 6 years that’s a dyansty.
if we hadn’t missed the playoffs in ’09 and ’10 maybe; but those two years are hard to ignore
I will say this, dynasty or no, the great thing about being a giants fan right now is that you go into every season with the prospect of a potential super bowl run a real possibility
that’s not too bad
I find it odd that TT comes back off major ACL, as does Hixon — both second ACL’s, and yet Canty is not allowed to practice
I still have not heard what is wrong with his knee
in his interview he says he feels good but the doctors tell him he is not ready
so what gives with canty?
Man who does Eli Manning think he Is?!?!?! Just another so called “expert” with no clue and no respect for the Giants!!!!!!!
LETS GO TEAM!!!!!!!!!
Troy and Jim regarding 2010-
I don’t blame the team for the week 16 GB loss. In my 20 years of watching the NFL I don’t know if I have ever seen a QB and his WR’s more dominant than Rodgers and co. were that day. I mean guys were covered pretty well and Rodgers was putting it in perfect spots and his WR’s were catching everything. Not to mention he was getting rid of the ball so quickly that there was virtually nothing that could have been done to stop their offense that day.
No my big problems that season were
1. The absolute debacle week 15 against Philly, just a disgrace.
2. The home loss to the Cowboys the week after we destroyed Seattle. By the way Jason Garretts first game as HC.
3. The week 3 home loss against Tenn. Bradshaw fumbles inside the 5, Eli throws a left handed pick into the end zone.
Turnovers that season ruined what was a great year by our defense. Also Matt Dodge and his anxiety issues whenever he touched the ball didn’t help either.
4. To top it off TC gives his legendary “So what we missed the playoffs, winning 10 games is a great accomplishment” rant. Umm winning 10 games with that team was a great disappointment Tom. As was winning only 9 games last season with our roster. Thankfully we made up for that in Jan and Feb.
No more injury excuses. Our QB has never missed a game. EVER! As long as he is playing we have no excuse.
I will say that I agree with the Green Bay sentiment. As bad as I felt watching it (and we were all kind of expecting a “let down” that week too), it really did seem like it was more of a “running into a buzz saw” than it was a “let down”.
Honestly, it kind of felt like the Cleveland game from a few years ago. People wanted to say it was inexcusable to lose to them, but I gotta tell ya, watching that game I didn’t find myself yelling “What are you doing?!?!” at the Giants…I found myself yelling “How did you do that?!” at the Browns.
It was just their day and they played lights out. It happens.
That’s why you can’t let the “shoulda” games slip through your hands…you need them to have a cushion against the “it wasn’t going to happen” games.
Jfunk-
Exactly. Some days you’re just not going to win. Against the Saints in NO. Indy week 2 2010. And yes that Cleveland Monday night game. I expect 1 or 2 great games a year by our opponents in which we just don’t really have a chance. I also expect 1-2 close, evenly played games in which we fall short.
What I can’t tolerate is the 3 games we lose per year that we have no business losing. To inferior teams in which we let them hang around.
Sorry I meant Jim and Goat
Giants safety Tyler Sash has been suspended four games for violating the league’s policy on performance-enhancing drugs, but Sash says he did nothing more than take the medication Adderall under a doctor’s supervision. As a result, Giants coach Tom Coughlin thinks the NFL should give Sash a break.
“This kid really had no intention of doing anything that was illegal. I know what the definition of the rule is, and I understand all about that; I’ve been there myself . . . but you have to ask yourself, sometimes common sense needs to be involved,” Coughlin said.
Coughlin said Sash is a hard-working player and a good young man who doesn’t deserve to miss four games for an honest mistake.
“I feel bad for the kid,” Coughlin said. “He is a heart-and-soul football player; he takes everything that he has and puts it into the game. He loves to play. We used him in a very, very important role last year as a rookie, fullback on the punt team. So there’s no issue with this young man. He doesn’t need any watchdog over him. Ignorance is no excuse of the law, I understand; but he knows what is expected and he does it.”
Coughlin is right that something doesn’t quite add up with the way the NFL has disciplined players who have said they tested positive for Adderall. The league lifted Giants running back Andre Brown’s suspension completely and reduced the suspension of Texans punter Brett Hartmann but will apparently force Sash to miss four games, even though all three players say they took the same prescription medication. The NFL ought to clarify the matter, but the confidentiality of the drug policy means it won’t.
And that means Coughlin and others will continue to look at the NFL’s prohibition of Adderall and say that it’s lacking in common sense.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/01/coughlin-nfl-should-apply-common-sense-in-tyler-sash-case/
In Brown’s case, the drug was taken regularly as part of a maintenance regimen. Apparently, it’s okay to take as long as you disclose it to the league by filling out some paperwork each year. Brown did a brain f@rt and “forgot.” (Attention deficit?)
It looks like the crime is not taking the drug, per se. It’s not being forthright about its use, and zero tolerance for such bone-headedness seems to be the order of the day.
On an unrelated note, my wife met Dan’s dad today. He was at our house on work related business, saw all the Giants paraphernalia, and started talking to her about Giants101.
If he is to be believed, Dan is halfway decent guy. :-P
I now have my very own Dan Benton Sports Media 101 business card too. It’s not autographed though, so I’m a bit disappointed.
Wait, what?!
Adam Schefter: Giants CB Terrell Thomas is scheduled to meet Tuesday in Pensacola, Florida with Dr. James Andrews. But doctors who have examined Thomas so far do not believe he has a torn ACL and they are optimistic he will play again this season.
http://www.whosay.com/AdamSchefter/content/362417?wsref=tw&code=OPK3Tej
Just saw that too. Very confused now. Many different reports coming in about TT’s knee.
If this is true, it will be another “I told you so” for Benton!
Obviously it’s not torn, or the shin bone could be displaced.
I think it’s time we started shooting us some doctors. These are the same guys that say Witherspoon will be back this year, and Beckum will be ready any day now. The same guys who had Hixon and Goff back at practice after 9 months and Sintim after 7. I have two words for the entire sports orthopedic discipline. EMPIRICAL EVEDENCE. Take your nose out of the medical journals and see what you are really doing to these guys.
It was not that long ago that two years was the real recovery time for an ACL. Now, if you’re lucky, you’ll be back in 9 months, but if you’re unlucky your career will be over. I’m sorry, but this is not my idea of medical progress.