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New York Giants Rookies Better Ready Themselves for a Lesson in “All In”

April 30th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
By Jen Polashock

Most of the NFL world is post-2012 NFL Draft, trying to build up and/or reload for the upcoming season. The World Champion New York Giants have been here before.

Big Blue players re-convened at the Timex Performance Center recently for brief off-season workouts (as OTA’s have begun) and are already on the familiar road to a possible repeat. Soon, the new blue recruits (the 2012 Draft class and the UDFA’s) will join their Giants teammates for a lesson on 'All In.' While NFL Mini-Camps haven’t been held since 2010 due to the infamous lockout, the Giants will be fully prepared to host their rookies and get them quickly acclimated to how things roll with the Super Bowl Champs. Things will not be all social and fun for these kids.

Tom Coughlin is all about football. He takes it as seriously as the old-school guys Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry did. The first year players under him will quickly learn that – or sit.

There’s a continuum that will be had here, regardless of which players have moved on and who’s being welcomed aboard. The Giants have a legacy that they tutor to their players. The franchise remains true to itself in these lessons. Change happens, but it is unavoidable in today’s NFL and should be prepared for as much as possible – meaning that it shouldn’t be felt as a large impact to team. 

General Manager Jerry Reese has known whose contracts would be expiring and who would (potentially) be walking away. The business side of football -the “ugly” side that most fans hate- is dealt with year-round. Reese and Marc Ross, their Director of College Scouting, are the ones to figure how to keep the continuity going. Which players/pieces fit the systems that are in place as well as which player personalities fit in mentality-wise for the New York Football Giants. Two Lombardi Trophies in less than five years isn’t coincidence or “luck”…

A huge facet of why this Giants team is built for the long haul is trust. Each part that’s in its place is trusted by its surrounding part. Co-Owner John Mara trusts Jerry Reese. Reese has faith in Head Coach Tom Coughlin to do his job, as TC has faith in Kevin Gilbride and Perry Fewell to get their respective jobs done. No one here is micro-managed by their superior. The same applies on-the-field. Instruction is given, but it’s on the individual player to carry out his assignment.

Granted, trust is earned, but how – by earning it. Excel at what you do and do it as one. Achieving greatness together is much more fulfilling than gaining it alone. This New York Giants team has already pulled onto the road to a new season. They may be in the process of still picking up some new passengers, but the vehicle and the driver haven’t changed. Most importantly, neither has the map.


Tags: 2012 NFL Draft, Football, Jerry Reese, John Mara, Kevin Gilbride, Marc Ross, New York, New York Giants, NFL, Perry Fewell, Tom Coughlin

19 Responses to “New York Giants Rookies Better Ready Themselves for a Lesson in “All In””

  1.  GOAT56 says:


    I think with a lot of people are missing with Osi is that is difficult to offer him fair market value which is probably in the 7-8 mil range. JR has made offers that are friendly to the team and less than that type of money, which he should. That doesn’t make Osi a bad guy for turning the offers down. I have long said that though I’m an Osi fan we should not pay him fair money for his talents. We still have JPP & Tuck. Kiwi is just not worth the same as Osi in the open market so an extension makes more sense for both sides.

    Getting high draft picks for vets especially not with the new rookie scale is just very difficult. The colts didn’t get a sniff with Freeny either. Philly got a 7th for Samuels. So please don’t act like Osi is some barely above average player because teams won’t give up a 2nd round pick. Temas just don’t give up high picks very often when they still have to pay a player big bucks except for QB.

    Lastly, JR is not going to give Osi a great deal because the way Osi went about it. It’s not about Osi being a bad guy but it’s a signal to all of our younger players that you shut up to get your money from JR. Before people criticize Osi, for many franchises what Osi has done would have worked. But JR is a cold blooded SOB (in a good way) and doesn’t let media cries effect him. I bet if Osi had it to do over 2 years ago he would be quiet. But after JPP showed great ability Osi getting a good deal based on his league value to re-sign basically went out the window.

  2.  kujo says:

    Repost, because it’s another way of defining the “ALL in” mantra that drove this team to the Super Bowl last year.

    All I’ll say about this Osi stuff is this:

    He’s a great player who should have learned from Kiwi–work hard and keep your mouth shut.

    I’ll bet Reese has Tuck and JPP in mind while he’s dealing with this. They’re all gonna be up for new contracts/extensions soon, and by taking care of Kiwi instead of Osi, he’s saying, in effect, “We value hard work, production and a team-first team-last attitude. If you want to be here, do those things.”

    Would love to have Osi, but not at the expense of Tuck and JPP. Sorta the same attitude I had about Manningham..

    •  kujo says:

      By any objective standard, Osi Umenyiora is a FAR better defensive end than Kiwanuka. Anyone would admit that Osi has been one of the premiere pass rushers in the NFL during his career. And while his deficiencies have been as consistent as they have been over-exaggerated, he is clearly the superior athlete and pass rusher.

      That being said, he’s a Grade-A assh0le and a pain in the a$s. He’s been a thorn in the paw of this team and organization for YEARS, while teammates who are his inferior on the field–Kiwi and Tuck– have been quite the opposites OFF the field. Consequently, they have been commensurately rewarded, and will continue to be so. We should all hope that the guy who has been pegged as the successor to #72 JPP is learning from these guys instead of his predecessor.

      •  GOAT56 says:

        I don’t think Osi is ****, there’s a reason you don’t hear stuff from his teammates and coaches about this issue. I think the negotiating plan he came up with a few years ago was just wrong for JR. Then the drafting and quick development of JPP took away his need for the organization to keep him going forward. JR has all the power and is using it.

        If anyone wants to undervalue Osi look no further than the #15 pick, Bruce Irving. He dreams of defending the run like Osi. But he can rush the pass like Osi and that attribute is highly desired even if other skills are lacking.

  3.  wlubake says:

    Unrelated to the article or the Osi drama (which I am pretty much over):

    I think there is a spot for this Martinek kid on the active roster. He could project to the #1 third down back, the #1 goaline back, and an H-Back option that Beckum could never pull off. I think he’ll be valuable. Looks like great blitz pickup, soft hands, and plus speed and power.

    Of course we still keep Hynoski around to clear lanes for Bradshaw and Wilson.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      I agree, though I think he’s more in competition with Scott and Ware. Blitz pick up might be key.

  4.  Dirt says:

    Oddly enough, the latest in the drama with Osi was stirred up by one Ralph Vacchiano, who recently mused via Twitter about how dead the newspaper business is and, also oddly enough, his job is to sell newspapers.

    •  kujo says:

      Stirred up?


      Osi sent the email exclusively to The Daily News.

      Sell your bullsh*t elsewhere, dude.

      •  Dirt says:

        You don’t find it coincidental that Ralph always gets this story first?

        Dude, there’s a great chance that’s all Osi’s doing and he feeds Ralph who is a willing acceptor.

        But it’s always Ralph. You and I can’t know the background. Nor if Ralph emailed him for comments.

  5.  norm says:

    There is almost no way Matt McCants makes the 53 man roster.

    This seems patently obvious to me. Just as it seemed patently obvious that there was a less than 1% chance the Giants would draft Fleener at 32 – another opinion that was greeted with some skepticism around these parts.

    It’s simple arithmetic. If you’re going to carry 9-10 OL on the roster, 3 of them can not afford to be developmental projects. Period.

    Brewer may or may not be ready; Mosley almost certainly won’t be. That’s two right there. And in just about every scouting report I’ve read on him, McCants is far more raw than either of those two. Assessments such as the following are not atypical:

    Left the band to join the football team and is physically talented, but raw, inconsistent and still growing into being a football player — physically and mentally. Looks like a starting left tackle in flashes, but is a developmental project at this stage of his career. Is most ideally suited for a zone-slide protection scheme.

    This was a player who was drafted for the practice squad. The idea that GMs around the league are just lying in wait looking to snatch talent off the Giants’ PS is just laughable homerism. McCants is nowhere near NFL ready right now. No GM in his right mind would want to carry him on his team’s active roster – which is exactly what he would have to do were he to poach him off the Giants PS.

    That’s the genius of this pick. McCants is someone who COULD turn into a very, very good player in 2-3 years time… but is virtually useless to even the most hapless NFL club right now. So the Giants can stash him on the PS knowing that he’d be – in the words of the immortal Captain Beefheart – Safe as Milk.

    •  fanfor55years says:

      Anyone who disagrees with this isn’t thinking straight. In fact, I’m expecting the Giants to think very hard about retaining Locklear so they have a more veteran presence along the O-line. That makes ten times more sense than assuming McCants will be anywhere but the practice squad.

      •  GOAT56 says:

        McCants makign the active roster is dependent on Brewer. If Brewer challenges for the RT position and shows he’s ready to be the 3rd OT then the need for Locklear is greatlt diminished. Brewer seemed to be in a similar position last year and though he was 3rd string in preseason we kept him on the 53. I think this is because if McCants really has a chance to challenge for a LT job in a year as JR stated that type of player will have value to some team, especially when injuries strike. When a player is on PS he doesn’t have to be signed off in September, later in the year is more the threat with a player like him. But if Brewer isn’t ready McCants will probably just have to be risked on PS. Remember both Williams and JPP were raw too, sometimes players show more than expected. The full offseason programs can help these players develop faster.

        •  fanfor55years says:

          He’d have to make SO much progress in preseason that hoping for it is almost crazy. Let’s not mistake him for the offensive line equivalent of JPP, or even Williams. He’s far behind in technique and on the offensive line, unlike on the defensive line and even at linebacker, technique far outweighs athleticism.

          Frankly, just about EVERY member of this season’s practice squad will be at some risk of being picked off, largely because the Giants have so many quality players among their 90 that those who even make the practice team will have competed like hell to do so and will show the coaches that they are capable players. It’s the nature of the beast for the superior teams.

          I happen to think Brewer will give Diehl and Locklear a run for their money as the starter at RT. Does that mean McCants gets “protected”? Highly unlikely, unless his progress through the summer is ridiculously good.

          •  GOAT56 says:

            My point is at this point last year there where more than a few people that had very similar thoughs about Williams. I’m not a scout or a coach so I don’t know. But if JR says he can challenge for a starting tackle spot in a year that kid is going to be hard to hide on PS. You may very well be right but I’m basing my thoughts off of JR’s comments and some a recent example of a similar type of raw player in Williams.

        •  norm says:

          That players signed off another team’s practice squad must be carried on your own 53-man roster is a very powerful deterrent, one that fans chronically underestimate.

          Teams simply do not sign burn one of their own precious roster spots for the right to carry a project player from some other team’s practice squad. That almost never happens.

          The players that tend to get poached are of the more NFL-ready variety, who missed the cut not for lack of readiness but because there was too much quality on the depth chart ahead of them.

          It usually works something like this: Team X is thin at position Y. Team X loses a player at position Y to injury. So Team X scans the rosters of the other 31 team’s practice squads for a player at position Y who they feel can step in and contribute right away – either as a rotation player or backup.

          I’m sorry… barring some miraculous training camp transformation, that player is not Matt McCants. I doubt there is a team in the NFL – no matter how desperate they may be at tackle – who believes Matt McCants can come in and contribute for them this year.

          Even if Brewer wins the starting RT job (unlikely, IMHO) McCants is still going to wind up on the PS. Book it.

          •  GOAT56 says:

            My concern is more later in the year in terms of PS. I understand that McCants doesn’t offer much in 2012 but neither did Brewer and we kept him. Locklear is definitely the safer bet. I just think from how we have seen rosters shake out it’s too early to right off this kid from amking this team. He was a draft choice, which means he has a greater chance of being kept. I’m not saying he’s making the 53 but he can.

  6.  fanfor55years says:

    Reese’s plan going forward at defensive end is obvious. He sat and waited to see what offers he’d get for Osi while extending Kiwi. He obviously didn’t get what he thought was fair value (teams weren’t going to give up high draft picks, but many will be interested when he’s an UFA) and realized at that point that he had to assume Osi would play out his contract and leave after this season. Might he get a great offer from someone before the season starts? Maybe (two strong picks in next year’s draft) from a team “on the verge” that lost its pass rush in preseason through injury, but not something to count upon.

    So, in 2013 Osi is gone (with one exception, discussed below), Kiwi is moved to DE and an early target in the draft will be a defensive end who is thought to be capable of being a starter by 2014 (but will probably become the #3 or #4 guy on the depth chart since Tuck will “up” his game and JPP will get extended early). That means we got our #3 DE (Kiwi) at the salary slot that is justified on this team but is too little to currently satisfy Osi and keep him.

    Now, there is one, very outside, chance that they retain Osi beyond this season. This would hinge on being unable to reach an agreement with Rivers for a longer term (or being uninterested because he doesn’t play well this season), therefore preferring that Kiwi continue to play a lot at SAM, and Osi’s entrance into the free agency market resulting in his being offered a lot less than he expects and a lot closer to $5-6MM per year with $7-8MM guaranteed that the Giants could justify in exchange for a tremendous player at their #3 slot on the DE depth chart for the next 3 years. I suspect that the above is a very, very, long shot, but it isn’t impossible. And if Osi can be retained, the cap isn’t broken as a result, and he can be made happy about being here knowing he couldn’t get more elsewhere, then I would hope they kept him. He is an ENORMOUS asset, and isn’t nearly the bad guy many want to make him. The guy is seeing many players who do not have even close to the impact on a season that he does get paid a lot more money. Does he want more than he’s worth? Sure. Does Reese want to pay him less than he’s worth? Of course. Unfortunately, they’ll only meet halfway if other teams set his market value there and he hasn’t become so resentful that he’d leave for the same dollars just to slap Reese in the face. Doubtful outcome. Too bad. This team could use four more years of Osi causing havoc in the other teams’ backfields.

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