Loading ...Mere hours prior to the start of the NFL Draft on Thursday night, the New York Giants announced the signing of veteran defensive tackle Shaun Rogers. The news of his addition seemingly came out of left field, and buried amidst the hoopla and preparation for the draft was word that the team also looked into free agent Albert Haynesworth.
Haynesworth is a name that seemingly hangs around the Giants every time he's a free agent dating back to 2009 when the team reportedly offered him an $80 million contract. Of course, he instead opted to sign with the Washington Redskins, who gave him a seven-year deal worth $100 million. In 2011, he was traded to the New England Patriots, subsequently released a few months later and then finished the season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Once a Pro Bowl and All-Pro player, Haynesworth's career has recently been in a downward spiral. He was unable to get along with coaches in Washington and was suspended by the team, which eventually led to him being traded. Then, in New England, he got into a face-to-face confrontation with assistant Pepper Johnson leading to his release.
In addition to his issues in Washington and New England, Haynesworth has been involved with several questionable and violent on-field actions, including the stomping incident of Dallas Cowboys center Andre Gurode in 2006. He's also been in the spotlight for several legal issues away from the field, including allegations of assault and an automobile accident that left one person paralyzed.
Whether or not Big Blue's interest fades with the addition of Rogers remains to be seen, but either way, Haynesworth is a risk not worth taking at any price.
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Good lord I really wish I could say 100% the Giants would never sign this guy. He’s a true scum bag, not just some immature kid making mistakes.
Don’t want him on my team even for minimum salary.
Hopefully, the fact that the Giants chose Shaun Rogers over him means the end of any future flirtations.
Reading between the lines, I would think that this signing means DT is not on the front office’s radar in the draft.
I’m aware that this class is deep at the position. And that guys like Still, Worthy, and Reyes are still on the board. But I think the Giants are now set at DT. They never carry more than four – and Canty, Landfill, and Austin are stone cold locks. Austin likely does not dress for most games this year, much like Landfill in his rookie year. It would appear that they have targeted Rogers to fill the cheap, veteran “3rd DT in the game day rotation” role occupied by Bernard last year. Meaning: no more room at the inn for DTs.
Reese may spend a late round pick or bring in a UDFA on a project DT to compete in camp and be stashed on the PS if he raises some eyebrows in camp. But that will be the extent of it.
Similarly, I’d also tend to think that Osi is safe unless Reese gets his doors blown off by an offer for him. It would seem that all of the draft eligible pass rushers who might have been able to replace him in the rotation this year are off the board. And Reese simply will not weaken the DE rotation of the 2012 team for the sake of picking up an extra third round pick. My condolences to Simon.
I agree on all fronts.
Yeah I tend to agree with that sentiment Norm. Looking for a wideout with our next pick. Hipefully one of the big two can drop some more..
Samardzija says:
April 27, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Lol what are you on about? trumaine Johnson is 6?2 205.. You are thinking of someon else..
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rlhjr says:
April 27, 2012 at 12:49 PM
My bad, it was Brandon Boykin I was thinking of. If he was bigger, he would have gone yesterday. Thanks for the reality slap Sam.
LoL thought so. I think Boykin goes in the third ish. Thats were Ive pegged him at least..
Still want to know what character flaws Jeffery has? Never really bothered to look it up. What are his issues?
Accused of not caring about football, being lazy stuff like that..
re: David Wilson
One thing that a few people have mentioned in passing – but that I believe is worthy of greater attention – is his age.
Wilson is only 20 years old. By contrast, Doug Martin (i.e. “the player the Giants REALLY wanted”) is 23 years old. Other backs who had been mentioned as possibilities in this draft class, Gray, Pead, Polk, Turbin, and James… are all 22. Lamar Miller is 21.
This is not insignificant. Running backs age in dog years. The additional wear brought on by Doug Martin’s three extra years may not be readily apparent now. But it may well be in a season or two’s time.
My bet is that his young age was just a big a factor in Wilson’s grade as was his measureables, game tape, and character.
Agreed. I mentioned earlier that despite the Giants aversion to 1st round backs and their inherently lower value in our rankings, that this point in time would be the right one to ignore those feelings if the right guy was there at 32 because we’re talking about the back that will likely line up next to Eli for the rest of his career.
A back may only last 5-6 years and another position that can give you 10-12 might be a better value with your 1st pick. But when 5-6 years from now will signify the end of an era anyway, it’s worth using that pick if you think it’s the right guy to see you through it.
Wilson’s age only adds to that possibility. That might be the attribute that gives us the one or two extra years out of him before Eli hangs it up.
I agree with both of you. I said last night to me this draft pick along with the vet acquisitions signals a win now approach. Not that we are mortgaging the future. But we are trying to win a SB in 2012.
I think this guy doesn’t like the Giants pick.
Per Bill Barnwell of Grantland.com
“The Giants, meanwhile, can’t even follow their own history. Remember who the Giants had in 2006? Right: Tiki Barber, a big-name, big-money running back. When he retired before the 2007 season, the Giants pieced together a rotation with a fourth-round pick (Brandon Jacobs) and a pair of seventh-rounders (Ahmad Bradshaw and Derrick Ward). Behind a great offensive line, they were a dominant rushing attack and a key part of Big Blue’s Super Bowl run. During the following season, they were even better, with Jacobs and Ward each hitting 1,000 yards. Instead of assuming that the offensive line was the important part of the equation, these running backs all began to get rich. Ward got a big contract in free agency from the Buccaneers and ran for a total of 409 yards before being released. Jacobs got a hefty raise to re-sign with the Giants and immediately saw his performance drop off before he was taken out of the starting lineup and replaced with Bradshaw. What do you think happened to Bradshaw? Why, he got a hefty contract extension last offseason and promptly saw his yards per carry dip below 4.0 for the first time in his career. Bradshaw also struggled with injuries and then nearly fumbled the game away in both the NFC Championship Game and the Super Bowl. How on earth could you follow that pattern and decide that your team needs to invest more in running backs? With their Super Bowl halo, though, the Giants spent the 32nd pick on Virginia Tech running back David Wilson. Some depth on the offensive line or in the back seven might have been more useful.”
Is it me or does he seem angry? Like he wanted to throw some feces at Reese. Glad this guy isn’t running the show. Yes, let’s spend a first round pick for “depth’ guys rather than a homerun hitter out of the backfield. I also must have missed the time when Bradshaw signed a “hefty contract extension”. Let’s forget for a minute that it technically wasn’t an extension as AB was a FA, since when is a 4 year deal that guarantees only $9 million considered “hefty” for a starting RB? He seems to ignore the Giants history of not reaching. Clearly the Giants didn’t have any of the remaining OL rated high enough on their board for that spot. While he points to the stellar line of the 07/08 SB team as the blueprint and reason to focus there and piece together a RB group with late rounders he conveniently fails to mention that we just won a SB with a less than stellar line. He then unintentionally goes on to make the case for selecting a RB high when he talks about AB’s injuries and near costly fumbles in the NFC Championship Game and SB. To him those are reasons to avoid investing in a RB early. For the sane among us, those are precisely the reasons why you invest in a premium talent like Wilson rather than hoping you can “piece together” a legit running attack.
I understand his point. But he acts like we didn’t win last year when we followed a different blueprint. He himself admitted we need help at RB. I think outsiders really overlook Beatty. Him returning is a big deal and a great help to our OL.
Someone needs to remind this tool that you don’t use a first round pick for mere “depth on the offensive line” (to use his phraseology)
“Depth on the offensive line” is something you look for in the 4th-5th rounds, something Reese dutifully does every year. This year figures to be no different.
Now, If Mr. Barnwell had said that the Giants would have been better off using the 32nd pick for a STARTER on the offensive line, he might have had a better case. Problem is, there was no one on the board at that point who came close to fitting that description. Obviously the Giants saw Glenn as more of a project than a “plug ‘n’ play” guard so they opted for a player who they felt could give them more help immediately.
I’m not sure if picking Wilson says we didn’t see plug & play qualities in Glenn. It just might mean we were really high on Wilson.
Chris Givens the WR from Wake Forest as predicted in several mocks I think would make a lot sense at 63. I’m assuming both of the pass rushers are gone.
Given KP’s a free agent and our questionable safety depth I wonder if George Iloka the Safety from Boise State is an option in the second round. I tend to think one of our CBs may be moved to Safety. But if not Iloka seems to have upside to be a high end starter.
If Wilson was just one dimensional , Im sure that there would be many on here bemoaning the high pick on a running back . But if you throw in that he is a return man and he can catch the ball out of the backfield well I think these extra talents along with his back flips certainly pull him up the ladder so to speak . Im just waiting for the top ten play where a defensive back tries to tackle him low and he does a flip over the top and goes on to score standing up
Eric– If you didn’t know, Bill Barnwell is a Cowboys fan and one of the biggest idiots in sportswriting. Just a complete moron who is totally full of sh** all the time.
As you point out, he says stupid things…like that Bradshaw’s extension was far from “hefty.” Far from it, in reality.
Why does Bill Barnwell think the Giants have owe some odd allegiance to their “history?” Are they drafting for 2012 or drafting for the last ten years. Secondly, he goes all through pointing out how their running game is kind of a at a low point, and then asks how they could decide to invest in a running back. What on earth? Is this man an idiot?
Yes. Yes he is. And Bill Barnwell is his name.