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New York Giants Awarded Fourth-Round Compensatory Draft Pick

March 27th, 2012 at 6:30 AM
By Dan Benton

While other teams like the New York Jets and Green Bay Packers stocked up on compensatory draft picks, the NFL awarded the New York Giants only one … though that one happens to be the fifth highest awarded to any team in the league.

It was announced on Monday that Big Blue had been credited with losing Kevin Boss, Barry Cofield and Steve Smith, and signing David Baas and Steve Weatherford, thus netting them a fourth-round selection, #131 overall.

With the addition of the fourth-round compensatory draft pick, Big Blue now has a total of eight picks in next month's NFL Draft (two of those coming in the fourth-round).

How the NFL determines and distributes compensatory draft picks is a bit of a mystery to the public. A secret formula developed by the NFL Management Council that considers players lost, players gained, salary, player honors and playing time is used, but exactly what weight and value is placed on each variable remains uncertain.

Compensatory draft picks can not be traded under NFL rules.

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29 Responses to “New York Giants Awarded Fourth-Round Compensatory Draft Pick”

  1.  Sue Smith says:

    Hi everyone,

    Been reading for a couple of years now, but first time poster :)
    First of all thanks to Dan, Kyle et al for keeping great articles just coming !

    The one thing that makes this site truly special is the posters here. Thanks for discussing everything in such great detail and with (mostly ;) great football savvyness. This is such a huge difference (and relief) compared to other borads.

    Anyways … been thinking about salary cup, FA and seeing players leave due to salary cap constraints:

    I would like to propose the idea of having a reduced salary cap hit for players that were drafted by the team and played continuously for this team. For example after the initial 4 years, have their salary count 1/3rd less against the cap regardless of the amount of the salary. (For example same idea as the rule of having three veterans (on minimum salary ?) just counting 500K against the cap). Successive contracts woudl follow the same pattern.

    This would give the original team a significant advantage of resigning their own drafted players over other teams.

    The biggest result would be (hopefully) that teams would be able to hold onto important players a little longer. It would honor good drafting, would not change anthing regarding overall player salaries and would leave players stay longer with a team without a personal financial loss. Fans would maybe even be more tied to the players of the teams and worry less about buying a jersey of a player in a contract year.

    Of course the reduced salary cap hit would be lost forever for the particular player if he changes teams for at least one day.

    What do you think about this ?

    cheers,

    Fars

  2.  kujo says:

    I think we’ll use one of the 4th rounders for a RB. We aren’t going to spend an earlier draft pick…they’re just too valuable in the grand scheme of things, when you’re talking about a player who will essentially be given the ball instead of putting it in the hands of Eli to toss to one of the vertical threats we’ve got. I recognize that we need to find a very good running back, and that having that running back would give us yet another weapon defenses will have to stress about, but I just don’t think that it’s worth forgoing drafting a player at any of the real skill positions in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round for a running back. The 4th round is a good spot, where you’re getting a solid prospect, a notch or so below whatever counts as “elite” prospect at running back each year.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      I disagree. While a 4th round RB is very possible I hope we only end up with one if there wasn’t a RB of “value” according to JR on the board. This is the worse our RB situation has been in since I can remember. Bradshaw is such a durability concern that we need another 1A type of RB. A RB is a weapon for Eli, it causes him not to get hit. We don’t have many huge needs that means we have to wait until the 4th round for a RB. Given what we have in Bradshaw and other RB we can’t afford the RB we draft to not be a good player IMO.

  3.  JimStoll says:

    the fourth round is really no-man’s land in terms of quality players
    during the coughlin era, our 4th round picks have been (in order): Torbor, Jacobs, Cofield, DeOssie, Kehl, Brown, Dillard and Brewer.

    Only Jacobs and cofield have gone on to have starting careers; DeOssie has proved to be a solid to above average special teamer; Torbor and Kehl are journeymen; Dillard a failure; Brown likely to be an injury casualty; Brewr too soon to tell.

    thus, the extra 4th most likely provides fodder only, but maybe Reese catches something

    • Dan BentonDan Benton says:

      The luxury is he now has two chances to catch something instead of one.

      •  GOAT56 says:

        I think the 4th round is when the scouts earn their money. Some teams have no hits on 4th rounders. Really except for Dillard and Brown? all of those players have been useful.

  4.  fanfor55years says:

    First of all, welcome Sue. That’s a good comment and similar to what the NBA has tried to do with the Bird Rule. I think it would be a terrific approach and have always been surprised that the teams and players didn’t suggest it years ago. They have moved a little bit in that direction with the three-player veteran exception, but that number of dollars amounts to peanuts because it’s about 2% of the total cap number and simply not enough to retain a really talented draftee who has played out his rookie contract.

    Second, that extra draft pick is very valuable. While Jim is correct insofar as his comment above goes, you have to remember that the Rule of Thumb in most years is that you get starters out of the first 100 picks in the draft and after that it is a total grab-bag from which you hope you get lucky. The fact that Reese got Jacobs, Brown, DeOssie and Brewer is actually a testament to his savvy. Brown may never amount to much, and Brewer is still a project (albeit one they are already saying good things about), but even just to get Jacobs and DeOssie out of eight fourth-round picks would be pretty good.

    More important, this year there are about 65 underclassmen who declared for the draft. That’s about 30 more than usual. And as you probably know, the NFL has now gone to a system where any underclassman thinking about declaring can request a league evaluation and will then be given an “expected draft status” that includes a small range for the round in which the league projects he will be selected. Usually, if the underclassman doesn’t see an evaluation that has him having a pretty good chance to be picked no later than the 4th round they tend to go back and play their last year of college eligibility in order to increase their value. The way I look at that is that this year there are at least 30 more “quality” players in this draft than is typical. That should mean that you can go as deep as pick #130 to find likely starting talent. That makes the 4th round quite valuable this April. That compensatory pick has real value.

  5.  JimStoll says:

    thinking about the draft, it is always the case that the 7 or so picks are immediately hyped and we all enter pre-season hoping and expecting each player to make the roster and make an impact; then reality sets in. so as we point to the 2012 draft, I thought it interesting to look at JR’s 5 previous drafts to see where he has struck gold and where he found only lead. Beginning with 2011 and working back to 2007, by round, here is who JR has selected:

    2011 2007 Round 1:

    Prince, JPP, Nicks, Phillips, Ross

    Round 2:

    Austin, LJ, Sintim (A) Beaty (B), TT, Smith

    Round 3:

    Jernigan, , Barden (A) Beckum (B), MM, Alford

    Round 4:

    Brewer, Dillard, A.Brown, Kehl, DeOssi

    Round 5:

    , Petrus, Bohmar, Goff, Boss

    Round 6:

    Jones (A) Sash (B) Williams (C), Tracy, DeAngelo Wright, Andre Woodson, Koets

    Round 7:

    Scott, Dodge, Stoney Woodson, Henderson, Johnson (A) Bradshaw (B)

    As might be expected, only Round 1 has been a consistently successful round in terms of garnering starter quality players; Round 2 is a little hard to tell since LJ is still a bit of a worj in progress (though very promising) and Austin is unknown; other than MM, round 3 has been pretty disappointing; Round 4 has produced 1 special teamer; Round 5 has been surprisingly fertile with Petrus, Goff and Boss; Round 6 was essentially a throwaway round until last year’s three-for; and Round 7 has yielded 1 gem.

    •  GOAT56 says:

      Wasn’t Cofield a 4th rounder too?

      •  JimStoll says:

        Yes, but before JR’s time

        •  norm says:

          Yeah, but JR was head of college scouting under Accorsi.

          My understanding of the way it usually works (and someone please correct me if I’m wrong) is that the head of college scouting is the person in the front office who is largely responsible for compiling the team’s draft board.

          Under Accorsi, the draft boards were put together by Reese; under Reese, that job has fallen to Ross.

          In a sense, then, if one really wants to critique Reese’s acumen for grading talent, one would be better off looking at the picks that were made under Accorsi. Similarly, the picks that have been made since Reese became GM have been largely influenced by the evaluations of Marc Ross.

  6.  GOAT56 says:

    I doubt the “Bird” rule that Sue mentioned is brought to the NFL for 2 main reasons. (Welcome Sue)

    1) The NFL has gained it’s popularity based on the team not the individual so while as fans we hate losing certin players in the long run in doesn’t effect our NFL dollars. The NFL is not the NBA.

    2) Competive balance. Teams like the giants, steelers, ravens, packers, etc. have already been better than most teams in the NFL by drafting well. If these teams can actually keep all of their players it will create even a greater advantage over teams like the redskins. Teams like the redskins are struggling anyways to keep up and would sufer even more if teams with drafting talents were given more ability to keep players.

  7. Dan BentonDan Benton says:

    Official list of Giants draft picks:

    Round 1, pick 32, #32 overall
    Round 2, pick 31, #63 overall
    Round 3, pick 32, #94 overall
    Round 4, pick 32, #127 overall
    Round 4, pick 35, #131 overall (compensatory selection)
    Round 5, pick 32, #167 overall
    Round 6, pick 32, #201 overall
    Round 7, pick 32, #239 overall

  8.  Samardzija says:

    Ronnie Hillman is a guy I would target with this pick. Good instinctive runner whos pretty fast with decent hands. Smaller guy who played in a weak division, but only two years of rushing on his tires. Went absolutely bersherk on a pretty good Missouri Defense. Had something like 10 yards a pop…

    •  GOAT56 says:

      I’m surprised at that thought. To me with Bradshaw always being injured we need a RB capable of being a 1A. If let’s say Jacobs was brought back then I could see someone like him. Isn’t he a change of pace and 3rd down type of RB?

      •  Samardzija says:

        Meh I think he can be a three down guy. LeSean McCoy type of back only slightly more physical and not as shifty. I think he can be a very good player

        •  norm says:

          You had me convinced at “LeSean McCoy.”

          If the Giants somehow can come out of this draft with a homeless man’s McCoy, I’d be thrilled.

        •  GOAT56 says:

          Hmmm. Interesting. I didn’t think that but I haven’t seen much of him so I don’t have an opinion on it. Honestly, I think we need 2 RBs from this draft. I think you take a 7th round flyer on a RB like Brown from K St or Scott from S Fla.

  9.  GOAT56 says:

    I’m surprised no one mentioned Steve Smith signed with the Rams

  10.  norm says:

    Any word on Devin Thomas?

    Has he signed anywhere yet?

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