Loading ...New York Giants defensive end Justin Tuck suffered through a season of brutal injuries, which at one point had him considering a request to be placed on season-ending Injured Reserve (IR).
"At the end of the day" he managed to power through personal turmoil and injuries to his neck, toe, groin, ankle and most recently his shoulder. It was the last one however, that caused the most amount of damage and once again has him pondering the next steps.
"I might have to have surgery on my shoulder, maybe. But we don’t know yet," Tuck said. "Honestly, you don’t want to have surgery so we are doing everything we can in our power not to have surgery."
The only mention of Tuck's mysterious shoulder injury came on the Friday prior to the wildcard game against the Atlanta Falcons when he missed practice. It didn't appear to hamper in that game or any of the subsequent games as he was effective throughout the postseason and especially during Super Bowl XLVI in which he recorded two sacks and a QB pressure that led to a safety.
Tuck didn't detail the extent of his injury or what surgery might entail.
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If does need surgery I hope he has it ASAP so he can be 100% for training camp.
+1. Having his injury linger would be bad.
hate to hear shoulder surgery
I’ve had a fair amount of minor orthopedic issues from playing rugby in my youth and lifting and running for 30 years thereafter
as far as shoulder surgery goes, I’ve been told by my orthopedist (who works out of boston’s Brigham & Women’s hospital) that shoulder surgery is the toughest and longest of recoveries
if Tuck does need that surgery Osi’s importance to the team just doubled
While I’m sure shoulder surgery is painful to recover from, it probably has nothing on hip and knee surgeries.
Easy for us to say. Any types of surgery will be risky. If he can avoid it, I say avoid it.
Us fans really need to recognize what our beloved NY Giants did for us here.
At this time of the year, NO ONE is healthy. I hate how the analysts keep saying we’re better because we’re healthy… Anyways. these guys fought through some serious sheet and really gave us their all.
Look at some of the guys here:
Justin Tuck – too many injuries to count
Osi – Hip and ankle
DD – broken hand
Snee – something wrong but he’ll never tell us
Mckenzie – same with snee
Baas – neck and head
Ballard – knee, and forced so hard that he teared his ACL
Beckum – teared ACL
Williams – ankle sprain
Nicks – roughed up throughout the season
Manningham – i forget what… but there was something
Bradshaw – ankles
This is just what we know. I’m sure there are more. We need to really appreciate what these guys do to fight for that championship ring. These are a bunch of tough mofos.
I think Baas’ neck injury was actually a missing neck. Very serious.
wlubake – that was a funny post, made me laugh, thanks.
this is the healthy version
i hope he makes a decision soon that way he can start the healing process.
i was reading someones post on the last article in regards to eli being elite…. not only is he elite, but i think he is in the top 3qbs in the league. 1 i still have to go with tom b closely followed by eli then peyton/rodgers. people are inlove with the wow plays thanx to espn. they are in love with the media darlings…. brees and romo…. i for one am in love with a qb that can win games and will his team to victory… eli manning! in the fourth q when your team is down and need two scores theres no one better in the league right now than eli manning! in the beginning of the year he said he was elite and his play followed it culminating in his 2nd ring in 2 years! haters can say all you want but deep down inside they know that eli is a top 3 qb
Raiders cut Stanford Routt less than 1 year into a $54.5 MM contract.
The gift of Al Davis.
Eli’s respect will come soon enough. Also remember, Tom Brady was treated in much the same manner (“He’s lucky, he’s overrated”, ect…) until he won that 3rd SB in which he suddenly became God.
However players like Brees, Peyton, and most recently Aaron Rodgers, were awarded God like status without the need to win multiple Super Bowls.
The reason of course is quite obvious. Regular season and statistical dominance. The 3 above mentioned players not only have great statistical seasons under their belts, they also lead their teams to dominant records.
In fact Tom Brady’s God like stature was not fully complete until he put up all the records he did in 2007.
Now Am I saying Eli is worse than these players? Of course not, Eli is a fantastic QB. But if he wants to end all debate amongst haters he will need to accomplish a few things.
- Make the playoffs every year. No more of this taking 2 years off.
- Put up a great statistical season or 2. ie, throw 40 TD’s one season
- Lead your team to multiple 12-14 win seasons
- Win that 3rd ring
Now these things are not really important in my eyes, I’ll take the SB rings over any of that stuff. But for the people that try to hate on Eli, doing the above things will silence them forever. It did for the Tom Brady doubters.
(To be very clear. I love Eli and wouldn’t trade him for anyone. I’ve been 100 percent believer in his since the 2007 run. 75-90% before aforementioned run. )
Do I think Peyton, Rodgers, Brees and Brady, could have also won SB’s in NY? Yes I do. But thats an argument I’ve already had on this site and don’t feel like getting into again.
Anyway the argument I always gave in defense of Eli is one I developed the day he was drafted. Every friend of mine came up to me that weekend and uttered the phrase “He’s not as good as his brother.”
My reply:
“I don’t want him to be. I just want him to win Super Bowls.”
So when those Philly, Dallas, and other fans hate on Eli you just calmly respond, “thats cool, you guys can have the better QB, I’ll take the rings.”
Nosh i like that im going have to steal it ok???
Of course.
Plus it’s an easy response that shuts up everyone quick. No need to get in some long drawn out argument with some lunatic Cowboy or Philly fan.
Just smile and say “It’s probably important for you to have a QB with a bunch of records and Touchdowns, ect… Mine wins Super Bowls.”
The End.
Agree… other than the Peyton, Rodgers, Brees and Brady being able to win a Super Bowl in NY part.
I think it’s sometimes hard for fans to appreciate what a pressure cooker playing in this city can be, the effect it can have, and how it can cause certain athletes to come completely unglued (see Whitson, Ed) Of the QBs you mentioned, the only one who I don’t think would have a problem here is Brady.
Peyton – great as he is during the regular season in Indy – seems to lose a little luster under the bright lights of the playoffs. I also seem to recall reading comment by Archie somewhere which said that he did not think Peyton would like playing in the NY media market.
As for Rodgers, until he improves on his career 3-18 record while trailing in the 4th quarter, I’m going to continue to harbor doubts that he’s got more than a little bit of frontrunner in him. I want to see a lot more consistency from him when the chips are down before I am convinced that he has the mental makeup to handle NYC.
Finally, it’s been pretty well established at this point that Brees is a different QB outside of that damn dome. He’s an All World, GOAT level QB in New Orleans… outside he’s merely very, very good. More to the point… I’m not sure how Brees could have fared in an organization that didn’t allocate a disproportionate share of the teams resources to surrounding him with elite offensive linemen and skill position players, as the Saints have done – often at the expense of their defense.
Of course, this is all just fodder for a bar room argument and we’ll never know for certain how things would have played out otherwise. And I, as are you, could not be happier that things are not any different and that we have the QB we have; one who has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is the perfect QB for this media market, this team.
Yes we agree completely on that.
Perfect
Passing for close to 5000 yards IS a great statistical season by any stretch.
Speaking of the Saints…
… their GM is facing an offseason that makes Reese’s look like a walk in the park.
Their #1 priority, obviously, is to extend Drew Brees whose current deal is set to expire in March. Rumors are that he’s going to command somewhere in the neighborhood of $18 MM/yr.
At the same time, they have to make a decision on what to do with one of the men who has had a lot to do with Brees’ success, Carl Nicks. Nicks is coming off his rookie deal (I believe he was originally a fifth rounder, so he probably was not earning that much) and is also in line for a huge pay increase.
Here’s were things start to get thorny for New Orleans. They recently signed their other stud guard, Jahri Evans, to an $8 MM/yr deal, making him the highest paid guard in the NFL. I’m sure Nicks is looking for a similar number.
I’ve no doubt that the GM, Mickey Loomis, is having his share of sleepless nights. One the one hand, he knows that the whole Saints offense is predicated on the combo of Evans and Nicks maintaining a clean pocket for the diminutive Brees. This they have done exceptionally well, arguably better than any guard tandem in the game. On the other hand, he’s looking at potentially tying $16 MM/yr up in two interior linemen PLUS the $18 MM that Brees is expected to get. That’s roughly 25% of their total cap monies tied up in just three players.
It is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. There have already been rumblings that Nicks is unhappy with the numbers he’s been offered and that he is likely to walk. Unless the Saints have someone in the wings who can replicate that which Nicks gave them over the last four years, that offense could take a big step backwards. On top of that, Colston is also a free agent. I doubt they break the bank to keep him, either.
Compared to that, the Giants worries over how to handle Mario and Osi seem like small potatoes.
I really don’t see the Giants as being in that bad of a situation. Osi is under contract, he can whine all he wants, but he isn’t going anywhere unless the Giants let him. In sheer number they have a lot of FA’s, but so does everyone. Most of them are the back end of the roster, save Manningham, and while I would love to have Manningham back his loss wouldn’t be certain doom despite what some here think.
It’s more than just Osi and Mario. We have to decide the fate of several high priced vets on the roster (Bradshaw, Jacobs, Diehl) as well as numerous free agents (Grant, Weatherford, Mario, McKenzie, etc). This is to say nothing of guys like KP, Nicks and Cruz, whose successes this year–and the desire to keep them away from free agency in the next year or 2–will motivate Reese to try and hammer out longterm deals sooner rather than later.
And then there’s the bits and pieces of our squad, and any extraneous signings we need to make in free agency.
Very muddy waters ahead.
Cruz and Nicks are the big concern to me, which is why I find it hard to believe Mario will get paid by the Giants. It’s difficult to justify three giant contracts at one position. It’s tough enough to do it for two.
And how are our waters any muddier than those every other team hard against the cap finds itself in?
As I’ve said, what Reese faces is an ice cream social compared to what Loomis now faces in N.O. He’s trying to figure out how to hang on to two of the three players who have been the driving engine behind the Saints offensive machine and do it in such a way as to not hamstring the rest of the team.
I’m not sure he can. I think he has to let Nicks walk. And unless he has another ace up his sleeve, the Saint offense could wind up suffering for it.
I agree the Saints have a tough situation. You didn’t even mention Colston, Mechum and Porter. We are talking about their core players. With us every core player is under contract. Manningham and Thomas or Ross are players we want to keep however we are not discussing losing our core.
Dammmit! I caught up on 24 hours of posts with a really good idea to post, and my man Nosh stole my thunder in this thread. Essentially, what I was gonna was was no one was putting Aikman and Brady in the HOF right after their 2nd ring. At least Eli’s enshrinement is being entertained.
I like this post:
kujo says:
February 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM
Amani Toomer tweeted something this morning to the effect of “Anyone else sick of hearing about the Eli HOF talk? Let the guy finish his career first!”
Now, even though it’s contradictory to all that, how’s this for a bold but completely defensible statement:
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Eli Manning just completed the greatest season a quarterback has ever had (in the Super Bowl era)
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How many other quarterbacks won with a defense so bad that they gave up more points than the offense could score? Only Eli. All those 4th quarter comebacks? Absolutely necessary. Even in the Super Bowl. Wanna play field position? Brady goes 96 yards and 10-10. Opens the 2nd half with an absolute sodomizattion. And he damn near conducts a game-icing, 7 minute closer. And given all that, like all year, Eli had to drag them out of it.
How many other quarterbacks won with the worst rushing attack in football? Only Eli. Some have been close, like the 2008 Cardinals. But HOF-expert Kurt Warner couldn’t get it done.
Very literally, this entire season was on the right shoulder of Eli Manning, with little to no help from the defense or rushing attack.
I should mention that the very definition of a great season must include winning your last game with a trophy in your hand, so seasons like Marino in ’84 are disqualified.
It just so happens the aformentioned Eli Manning was also named MVP in said Super Bowl.
Unlike the regular season, where the paper MVP was outgunned by his backup in the final regular season game.
Here’s one thing that bothers me and I’ve heard repeatedly this week in the Eli discussion. Something to the effect of “but he was also the QB of the team while it started 7-7, so…”, basically insinuating that Eli was part of the problem.
Did these people not watch the games at all? Even the highlights? Eli was the sole reason this team was not 2-12 and BURIED at that point. FIVE of those seven wins were 4th quarter comebacks. With a 32nd ranked run game and high 20-something ranked defense. It’s such an ignorant statement.
You’re right, Eli was the QB of that 7-7 team…that’s an impressive fact not a denigrating one.
That being said, I don’t think there’s much wrong with Kurt saying that Eli isn’t HOF material YET. Lost in the many press clippings of his little chat was that he said Eli undoubtedly played like a HOF this year, and if he has another couple seasons playing at this level then it will be no question.
Having watched him so closely every moment, it’s easy to remember that these 4th quarter “Easy E” games didn’t just appear…they’ve always been there. It’s not hard for me to understand how those games might have been lost in the noise of him leading the entire NFL in turnovers for 2 of his 8 years thus far though. And it’s not entirely unfair to say of Eli that he has to cut that stuff out to erase the doubts of the outside observers.
“sole reason” is obviously a ridiculous overstatement. Nicks, Cruz, and JPP also contributed uncanny individual efforts, above and beyond regular “great play”.
2 cents on the Roster:
Nicks: Will have to be locked up long term at some point.
Cruz: Tough decision in that, you could lock him up only to find out this season was an exaggeration. Or you could lock him up and have it be a bargain if he has another monster year.
Weatherford: Bring him back. But lets not break the bank.
Mannigham: Certainly from a talent standpoint worth keeping but financially doesn’t make sense if you’re going to pay Nicks and Cruz at some point.
Jacobs: No idea
Osi: No idea
JPP: Has to be paid at some point
McKenzie: My gut reaction is to say he’s washed up let him leave. But if I remember correctly he also looked washed up in 2009 only to come back in 2010 with a dominant season. Decisions like these are why they pay JR the big bucks.
Ross: Certainly never lived up to his first round pick/ great rookie year promise. Plus he’s been injury prone. But played all year in 2011 while other CB’s were dropping like flies. And played adequately. At the right price I’d bring him back.
Thomas: Easily our best DB in 2010. Will get beat occasionally, but in this version of the NFL every DB gets beat sometimes (Except for Revis). Led our team in tackles in 2010. Don’t know how his knee is but I love him. Would def bring him back. Hopefully you get him at a good price considering he missed all of 2011.
Kiwanuka: Would move him back to DE permanently. He played solid at LB, but not nearly as well as he plays when on the D Line.
Phillips: In one sense, he has underwhelmed me since his injury. On the other hand, it’s not like the league is flooded with good safeties. We all witnessed the CC Brown experiment in 2009. Keep him. Just don’t break the bank.
Grant: In 2010 I thought he was the greatest FA signing JR ever made. In 2011 he looked washed up. Yet we won a SB in the later, go figure? Great leadership though. But is probably gone.
Blackburn: Love the story line. Love rooting for a guy like him. But it’s safe to say we can upgrade the talent at his position.
Goff: No idea
Thankfully I have 100% faith in Jerry Reese and will talk myself into any decision he makes. Until that is, I see said player play (Barden, Beckum, Bass) which I will then second guess him like any good fan is supposed to do.
Will be a fun offseason regardless because we’re SB champs!
And as long as Jerry Jones is still the Cowboys GM, and Dan Snyder owns the Redskins, we’re in pretty good shape.