Loading ...While not many aspects of their careers are all that comparable, New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning and New York Yankees short stop Derek Jeter have similar ways of approaching their jobs.
As fairly big figures in New York sports lore, both have taken a very business like approach to the media, to teammates, and to performing. Eli Manning has acknowledged as much.
"Derek's a guy, from the time I first came here, that I definitely have paid a lot of attention to," Manning said last week after a Giants practice. "He's a great player, but he's also a guy who really shows you what you have to do to succeed in a place like New York. The way he's handled himself on the field, off the field. The way he's dealt with all of the attention without letting it affect the way he does his job. He's done that better than anybody."
While it is possible to be successful in New York with more of a Playboy personality (see: Joe Namath), it is becoming increasingly obvious that players who do their job and ignore the celebrity aspect of the role see a lot more success.
Take Victor Cruz for example.
Offered an opportunity to be on "Dancing with the Stars" after just one year as a starter, Cruz said that he "didn't feel like it was something he should be doing at that point in his career."
Manning, despite a much different personal life than Jeter has never even considered exploiting the celebrity of his job. He comes and goes to work on a daily basis, a rarity among pro athletes.
"Playing in this market, you learn quickly that you've got to be immune to the distractions," Manning said. "And watching Derek and seeing how he's kept his private life private and managed to keep the focus on the field and on the job he has to do, that's a big help for someone like me. That's what you've got to do, and he's the ultimate example."
While perhaps Eli Manning has not had the illustrious career that Jeter has had, perhaps he can inch closer this coming Sunday in Indianapolis.
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The thing that has me really concerned about this game is Vegas. They have been correct in 19 out of the last 21 superbowls, and unlike most ESPN analysts, aren’t basing the line on Brady’s legacy or the thought that he “wants it more.” There is too much money at stake to do so.
Anyone have any unbiased opinions about why the Patriots are favored in this game? Like pretty much everyone else here, I believe most of the matchups favor the giants. What are we missing?
I also wish the giants didn’t do so much talking; though i dont think it will have any impact on the game.
Probably mostly the fact that they were 13-3 while we were 9-7. #1 seed vs. #4 seed as well.
The same Vegas that had us as 5 million point underdogs in ’08? I’ll take my chances.
I think there’s a trigger switch on the site that makes a new article when I post a comment, so………. repost from last thread……..
MarBro456 says:
February 4, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Who are all these PFF Jokers? None of their names jump out at me as people who REALLY know their stuff. I went to my own non-expert to ask an opinion….. my wife. She hates football, but she loves me and is constantly buying me Giants stuff..(Victor Cruz SB Jersey for the win). Anyway, here is her take on the game:
Me: So honey, who do you think will win this game and why?
The Wife: I think the Giants will win, and the reason being…. because you’re their fan… and also, because you ate the Patriots helmet off of the cake already.
I think I’ll take her word over most of the so called experts. Score one for the wife.
Your wife is awesome.
@Elis to answer your question the most unbiased answer I can come up with is Vegas is giving the standard homefield advantage points even though it won’t be much of advantage. Anyway when hasn’t Vegas gone against the Giants in the playoffs? Why stop now?
There’s an article in WSJ I believe about PFF. They’re an advanced stats supplier that is used by the Giants to help break down opponents.
Their founder, Neil Hornsby, as you saw on the previous thread, basically said the Giants are better but his reason for taking the Pats was purely because he picked them before the season started.
Ebenezer Samuel
Terrell Suggs on Gronk…thinks it is “a big show going on.” Makes two.
I’ve been saying it all week. Gronk is not only going to play, but he will be effective for at least the 1st half and score in the game.
The ultimate jinx…DAMN
Ralph Vacchiano
Ooops! The Giants’ website prematurely (and briefly) declared the Giants Super Bowl champions … #NYG … pic.twitter.com/mrfUNyuC
I saw that. I tried to ignore it. That’s right up there with being on the cover of SI!
And don’t think for one minute a picture of it is not already hanging on the Pats bulletin board.
Doh! That’s a pretty big whoops there. Wonder if they out-source their web people.
Sounds like lots of politics going on. Not sure Parcells gets in. Disgusting!
The West coast writers don’t want him. Peter King and Gary Myers are lobbying for him. Can’t anything be done the right way anymore. Why is it always quid pro quo?
The Vegas line also has be somewhat worried. The line is there to encourage even betting. Vegas would like there to be 50/50 money on the two teams. You’d expect that the Giants would draw more “homer” bets simply due to the size of the NY market. On top of that, they seem to be given the edge by most NFL analysts and are the more popular pick. So why, with all that happening, is the line not moving at all? Gamblers are apparently still sticking with the Patriots.
ElisComin – the previous thread had a pretty accurate analysis of why the Giants should lose this game, one of the few I’ve seen. In a nutshell: their offensive line is terrible and they can’t cover slot receivers no matter what they try. Tough to argue with those points. That being said, I still believe there are more +’s in the Giants favor than that.
Vegas wasn’t correct in 2007. I think the Pats just get inflated lines. As a 5-2 team we were a 9 point underdog in week 9. The Ravens were a 7-7.5 dog 2 weeks ago.
It has nothing to do with being “correct”. The line exists to encourage betting.
I know that, I was answering the vegas being right 19 out of 21 times vegas being right that elicoming posted. But the more I think about it that doesn’t sound right. Off the top of my head I know us, NE and Denver won as big underdogs.
I admit that I’m surprised it hasn’t moved to encourage more betting.
PFF is Pro Football Focus which has been used by various posters for a few years. They are legit. I only posted the NE picks. I think their picks are 12-9 Pats as a staff.
The reason I posted it was bacause I was looking for advantages that NE had in this game besides BB & Brady:
1) What I found was that many that think the Pats will win is because of Welker. He did have more yards than Cruz this year and we don’t have great slot CBs. The TEs also line up a lot in the slot so they can take advantage.
2) Our oline. Some think that our oline is bad enough for NE to effectively pressure Eli outside of Wilfork.
The line is perfectly placed. As jfunk said, it exists to encourage betting. And, if ESPN’s analysts are reflective of the broader population, it’s about right down the middle between people who believe Brady and Belichick are too good and people who think the Giants have a better team.
So maybe a few more people think Brady and Belichick are too good.
Also, remember that the bookies know how their big time customers tend to bet and have the line set accordingly. My $50 doesn’t mean anything. But the pros are bringing in serious wagers. Vegas just needs to hit it in the middle.
A couple of articles for those that seem to have a need to think we cannot win:
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2012/02/03/an-unusual-super-bowl/?xid=si_topstories
Just this statement here in the article makes me think he’s an idiot: “But pro football — unlike, say, the NCAA tournament — has not really been about peaking late. Super Bowl champions tend to peak pretty much the whole season.”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/02/03/reasons-patriots/index.html?xid=si_topstories
There’s some fodder to help you keep the “gloom and doom” feeling that is so cherished.
As for me…. my way to handle the game is to have complete confidence in our team to win this game on the biggest stage.
We all have our own ways of being a fan and how we handle the intensity leading up to the game. Optimists, pessimist… doesn’t matter…. we are here in this big game, so each of us should keep doing what has been working so far.
Go Big Blue!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ2mG1ugXBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfNBsJg8eQ4